Game Mechanics: Cazic Thule (2.0) - PoFear - Knockback AE not present

[Daldaen]

Reports are coming in that CT is only using the AE Snare, he is not currently using the AE Knockback. This makes the encounter far different/less tedious:

EQClerics 2001 August

Mobs with knockback (Vyemm, Yelinak, Cazic) pose the greatest challenge to a main tank tactic. We have special variations on main tanking that we use against knockback mobs.

Knockback confirmed part of encounter.

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Classes: None

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Area Effect Range: 60 feet
Pushes Target Back: 20 feet
Throws Target Up: 5 feet

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Skill: Evocation
Allowable Targets: Point Blank AoE

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Resistance Check: None

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Spell Duration: Instant
Area Effect Duration: 1.0 seconds
Recast Delay: 35.0 seconds

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Spell cast on you: You are knocked backward.

Spell data from April 2001 spdat showing the effect was in game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvC5K4yveFk

You can see the knockback at timestamp 2:20

[Ele]

snare + knockback was annoying as hell creeping back to the fight and interrupting casts

[Arteker]

there is reports he was slowed and that shouldnt be possible

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

snare + knockback was annoying as hell creeping back to the fight and interrupting casts

This for sure. With just the snare its not much of a fight, word on the street is 2 clerics held up fine against him for nearly the entire fight. That wouldn't have flown with a knockback+snare combo.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reports are coming in that CT is only using the AE Snare, he is not currently using the AE Knockback.

Fixed in game.

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there is reports he was slowed and that shouldnt be possible

Fixed, pending update. Will try to get it hotfixed.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there is reports he was slowed and that shouldnt be possible

I'd like to see evidence for this. Alla posts suggest the contrary:

Allakhazam - April 2001

Cazic is insane now, one of the most fun fights I've ever had.

First of all he has 300,000 HP. This is no joke. A guild of 50 people level 53+ beating on him for 5 minutes dropped him very little.

Second, he hits hard. This is easily countered if you can lower his MR just enough to land a Slow on him, in which point he becomes a big baby.

Third, he now has 2 AoE: a Dispel Knockback (like he used to) and a Snare AoE.

Fourth, he drops INCREADIBLE stuff. (The current list of his items is wrong, most of the reported items above were moved to the golems or the dracoliche and Cazic given all new goodies). The cleric helm listed above is testament to the kind of drops this buddy has.

Cazic is not a MOB any plane ready guild can drop anymore. This is a serious and true fight against the God that I've seen powerful and very capable guilds lose. He's not a joke anymore

-S-

November 2001:

Make sure u have DMF on during this battle so his gravity flux doesnt send u into the sky for 10k
Also make sure he is slowed( need a sacrificial chanter to tash at very beginning )

October 2001:

Cazic Thule is immune to attack speed debuffs.

Inoruuk is not (or was not as of 3 weeks ago, who knows what havoc today's patch wreaked)

Reply, a few days later October 2001:

Cazic Thule was slowed by a lvl 60 shammy, this was one day after the patch that made certain mobs immune to spell effects. Tash and Malo had already landed and I believe a bard was debuffing also. btw there were 4 lvl 60s trying and it did take a while before one landed. he owned us anyway =)

If you continue going forward in time you'll find more comments about slow able and none about unslowable.

[Daldaen]

http://web.archive.org/web/200211291...ww.graffe.com/

The Uber Mob Resistant chart puts him at a 4/6 on Magic resistance. Which is a "Lures are never resisted, normal magic spells resisted often".

But that is not an "immune to magic spells" tier of resistance.

With Malo / Tash / Occlusion / Bard Tash Orb (WTB bardstacking) - You should be able to stick slows occasionally. It should just take a few shots at trying even fully debuffed.

Setting him magic immune is bad mmkay. Let Necros actually lifetap and stuff. Plus not classic.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://web.archive.org/web/200211291...ww.graffe.com/

The Uber Mob Resistant chart puts him at a 4/6 on Magic resistance. Which is a "Lures are never resisted, normal magic spells resisted often".

But that is not an "immune to magic spells" tier of resistance.

With Malo / Tash / Occlusion / Bard Tash Orb (WTB bardstacking) - You should be able to stick slows occasionally. It should just take a few shots at trying even fully debuffed.

Setting him magic immune is bad mmkay. Let Necros actually lifetap and stuff. Plus not classic.

lifetaps where landin on him, and i saw it get a fully ice spear without partial

[Daldaen]

Perhaps cold resist should be tuned up a bit then.

But again, he should not be slow immune unless you can present evidence to counter everything I posted suggesting he should infact be slowable.

[Redi]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perhaps cold resist should be tuned up a bit then.

But again, he should not be slow immune unless you can present evidence to counter everything I posted suggesting he should infact be slowable.