WOuld one of our presidential peoples care to comment on ...

[maerilith]

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http://imgur.com/gallery/yPc7WX8

and the poor kid who killed himself over at MIT? Aaron Swartz

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I0o37MKFAQ

These politicians and the companies that source them and the media the sources them are the ones that make the laws that stand in the way of progress, prosperity, freedom, liberty, and justice for all.

This is why, genuinely people lover Berni Sanders. At least he is willing to admit that the power elite need to be put into check (p.s. don't worry about your middle class income) it's going to be stolen from you by the rich, the poor don't want it.

[Uuruk]

Summing this thread up to downs/tranny

[maskedmelon]

He broke the law and is responsible for his actions. Whether he agreed with the law or the practices of publishers of academic papers is irrelevant.

He could have worked within the law to establish an alternative non-profit publishing service for academic papers. Instead he chose to take a short cut and take something from someone else, because he felt he (and others) had a right to it.

Had he not taken the easy route, he would probably still be alive and might have lived to realize his dream of freer access to knowledge.

[Jauna]

So some little kid stole stuff worth lots of cash, then spread it around, could not handle the pressure of the fallout of his actions and took the easy way out?

At least when Robin Hood did this he kept on going until he was caught and executed.

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He broke the law and is responsible for his actions. Whether he agreed with the law or the practices of publishers of academic papers is irrelevant.

He could have worked within the law to establish an alternative non-profit publishing service for academic papers. Instead he chose to take a short cut and take something from someone else, because he felt he (and others) had a right to it.

Had he not taken the easy route, he would probably still be alive and might have lived to realize his dream of freer access to knowledge.

this is seriously not how the copywrite on these papers works, it's not like a public library of sorts could be made under the current law - they aren't protected speech and they aren't selling the papers, their only selling "licenses to view them" (smart but evil, and circumventing the letter of the law)

this kid was 10x smarter than most people and knew it, he did the best he could, which was act outside the laws which aren't going to change because people like you want to ignore the LETTER OF THE THE LAW and the RAMIFCATIONS of the laws as they are improperly enforced to the 19th degree

He was also held on trumped up charges, not just simply civil penalties for "sharing written works"

He didn't sell OR make profit on anything

He was put to the firing squad and saw his life ruined and was threatened by illuminati scumlords (or the enemies of the illuminati, who knows, the statue of liberty is pretty) but you know...

Also it was a high ranking judicial person (i can't remember their name, but like way up the totem pole) in the supreme courts/judicial branch that wanted Aarons balls on a grill. He was being pressured by people who really didn't have the right or authority to execute the prosecution the way they did, but did anyway because they COULD "technically" because the "law allowed it" because they are FRIENDS with elsiviere CEOs and corrupt as fucking hell

shits pretty fucked

And before you discount him as criminal scum, the kid was politically active trying to make any change he could outside of breaking the law. It's not like he just smoked some weed and thought it would be cool. He really did care about his ideology that information should be free, especially WHEN FUNDED BY TAXPAYER RESEARCH, STUDENTS, AND GRANTS. (WHICH IT IS NOT)

These papers aren't something Elseviere produced or payed for they are something they con the universities out of in order for the universities to have a chance at staying in business. It's piracy at financial knifepoint.

The actual research is done via charity practically.

If you want to argue... the regulatory side (cars and drivers on roads need regulation) that's a FLAWED model because it's A. not watched over by the government for the benefit of the public, B. it's not a dangerous activity that is a privilege (information and science and culture is a right), and C. it's already payed for

The day "FAIR USE" actually gets enforced under the copywrite laws, the I'll agree to your point of view.

It is not however enforced. Pretty much anything that becomes public domain is instantly re-grabbed by the likes of big corporations (how many versions of an old movie or book do we have were there were some edts, and different character names?) and instantly reformatted and then the big corporate bullies bully anyone who wants to maintain the originals (the lord of the rings books, were resold in order to extend their copywrites) etc... just seriously... research

You're a smart autistic child Masked, you should know better.

TLDR limited copywrite as originally intended, without the loopholes modern tech/society has produced + FAIR USE was a legitimately good idea. but is no longer SERVING THE GREATER GOOD as was INTENDED IN THE LETTER OF THE LAW. GO read dumbfuck.

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by Jauna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So some little kid stole stuff worth lots of cash, then spread it around, could not handle the pressure of the fallout of his actions and took the easy way out?

At least when Robin Hood did this he kept on going until he was caught and executed.

You don't even dignify a response, so HAI!!!!! WULD U LIEK 2 BUY A COPY OF MY PoSTs For 2 CENT's PER VIEWZ? PLZ DO NOT RETRANZMIET OR I WILL BE FORCED 2 SEND U 2 TRAITOR JAIL4LyF# becauze UR A PIRAT#&K811ddY (This includes CACHED copies on your ISP who'm we already made a deal with)

[maerilith]

Also, the point of the statement is that none of your power elites Hillary, Cruz, Trump, Bernztein, Sandorz111

Is able or willing to argue this point which is valid to greater than 25% of the educated population (yes the kim kardashians don't care, and indeed benifit from stupid shit like this) but it's theft from the people YOU are supporting, and the proper debate of important issues should not be suppressed in these times during the presidential debates. This is possibly one of the greatest issues modern society faces.

We developed a strong economy and science and culture because we were willing to enact and look at this issue back in the early 1900's.

Now we need to look at it again. I'm speaking from the position of a creator and artist and also a programmer/developer and businesswoman with 17 years of experience developing and operating software and hardware designs in IT.

My brother still currently wrestles with these issues to go into great detail would be too much, but needless to say he is being held hostage because the person he contracts with as an employee (oops) is merging their company with another one.

[maerilith]

P.S. if any of these people were smart enough to dump the information to darknets (not wooohscifi darknets) but real honest to god hackery spaces with good encryption and obfuscation of (addresses) it would have been virtually impossible to track the leak

Aaron took one for the team though, because the only way to access the information was legitimately from the inside. The only other alternative is espionage within Elseviere, these people have tighter networks than the DoD (because $$)

[maerilith]

Relevant movie link so you kindergartners can get a picture of liek the real deal

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115857/
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[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He broke the law and is responsible for his actions. Whether he agreed with the law or the practices of publishers of academic papers is irrelevant.

He could have worked within the law to establish an alternative non-profit publishing service for academic papers. Instead he chose to take a short cut and take something from someone else, because he felt he (and others) had a right to it.

Had he not taken the easy route, he would probably still be alive and might have lived to realize his dream of freer access to knowledge.

lol if you really think IP/copyright law can be changed with rational argument

no my friend, it's time for forks and knives