I need some clarification of being "on the list"

Splade · #1 08-25-2016, 03:24 AM

So, I will be the first to admit, i'm a very casual player. I don't generally camp contested spawns, I dont poopsock, I generally just keep to myself and solo.
I started a monk and I want to get him j boots, so, I have to camp the AC (or buy them).
I camped the AC on my necro and it was pretty cool because 3 of us kinda showed up at the same time and we all hung out and got 3 AC's to pop in about 3 hours. We chatted and had a good time and took our rings in the order we showed up, no one left the camp the entire time.
I decided to check the AC spawn last night, there was some guy killing him and no one else around. So I thought "cool, im next in line". So me and that guy hung out and talked and there was never any mention of a list or anything like that, I guess he just thought I was there hanging out at a remote camp in the middle of the ocean for my health. AC pops and he kills it, random druid comes running up out of no where and is like, "Soandso on deck ... Splade up next"
Im like "whoa champ, ive been waiting here for an hour and a half"
He was like "I was next on the list"
I'm like "what list? I was never told of any list, and you werent here"
Anyway, an argument ensues, AC spawns within 12 minutes of last one dying, he can out nuke my necro dots no problem so I dont even try.
The original guy that was there sent me a tell and said "yeah, soandso was on the list"
"im like WHAT LIST?!"
I petition (havent heard anything back) but I ask around and apparently this "on the list" is an actual thing.
My first thought was, what's to stop the person who's camping said spawn from saying "oh my buddy is next in line" and then just shooting them a tell or text when they're about to leave or line jumping their friend to the front
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So that brings me to tonight. I log in, same druid is sitting there camping. He has a hotkey made for "the list" with all the names on it. I /who all the entire "list" and no one is online. He says that it doesnt matter if they're online just as long as they're online when he leaves, 5 minutes later, he's leaving as the next guy "on the list" logs in (and they just happen to be in the same guild).
Anyway, this whole "list" business seems super shady and very easily abused. I remember on live for the contested camps it was whoever showed up and you sat your ass there, waiting to be next in line and if you weren't present, you weren't in line.
Furthermore, what happens if someone doesn't want to keep a list? I know this isn't live and I know p99 has somewhat different rules about things, is there anywhere I can go for clarification of "the list" issue?

RDawg816 · #2 08-25-2016, 03:56 AM

In my experience everyone does the list how they want. Some say you can log on an alt and keep in touch that way. Some say you have to be in zone. Sometimes there is no list. I'm not sure if there is an actual ruling, but good luck in your endeavors.

coki · #3 08-25-2016, 03:57 AM

here we go

Ivory · #4 08-25-2016, 04:05 AM

I always tell people "ya I'll add you to the list"...and then never do....and just tell whoever I remember or is nearby when I leave.....if I remember [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jimjam · #5 08-25-2016, 04:21 AM

From my experience, people who take EQ very seriously will tell someone 'you're on the list' when they don't want to waste time with that person. E.g. a wizard is LFG, but you want a monk or end, so the wizard is 'on the list'.

I always think people who do that are particularly lame for not straight out/politely saying 'no'.

icedwards · #6 08-25-2016, 07:06 AM

GMs have commented on this a bunch, the only rule is that the person who's taking over the camp has to be present when the handover happens.

AC can be a particularly shady camp, try not to be discouraged.

maskedmelon · #7 08-25-2016, 07:24 AM

There are no lists, there is only 'next'. When a player arrives at a camp, they may ask who is next on the list. The player holding he camp must then supply the name of the next person on the list. If the camp holder does not supply a name, then the arriving player may ask to be next and they will be next, provided they are there when the current camp holder departs. If the camp holder did however declare who is next, then that person must arrive within a reasonable amount of time of the camp holder departing. The amount of time is unspecified and at the discretion of server staff.

If you are holding a camp and do not wish to maintain a list, you are not obligated to. You may depart the camp at any time and it will become FFA.

unleashedd · #8 08-25-2016, 07:36 AM

can people auction camps? cause this is next level lawyerquest

Slayde · #9 08-25-2016, 11:34 AM

Yeah its trash, but remember this is a recreation of Nilbogs(and Rogeans) EQ experience. It hasn't translated well for a lot of people from some different servers, as every server was a little different. In conclusion don't come here expecting to re-live what you did back in the day as chances are it will be just different enough to make it a pain in the ass. Unless, of course, you were on the owners servers on Live.

maskedmelon · #10 08-25-2016, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by unleashedd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

can people auction camps? cause this is next level lawyerquest

Don't see why not, though it wouldn't last long because when asked, the camp holder must say who is next, or it becomes FFA and I'm sure most players would not care to wait for the conclusion of the auction. Game would be annoyed by any related petition and it would be up to the win see to try and defend the camp they paid for, so it would be unwise to purchase any such auction.

However, give. A sufficiently long camp, auctioning third place when you were next could work since naming a successor is not required of a successor.