Cheesing Raid trash mobs?

[Baler]

Are raid guilds allowed to use bad pathing to keep trash mobs (non raid targets) busy during a raid?

A spot where the player can step back and forth causing the agro'd mobs to path in a C or V shape to get to the player. And when the player steps to one side they go all the way around that C or V shape,. player steps the opposite direction and mobs run around that shape the opposite way. then the player repeats this over and over to essentially locking down trash mobs with no risk.

I am just wondering this because I was traveling through kael a while back and noticed a monk on a peak of ice along a wall. They were just stepping left then right and repeating. Causing the mobs to run back and forth without getting to the player.

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This is not a RnF thread.

[Argh]

You couldn't do this with juggs at Trak.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is moving back and forth different from running circles?

because a 'clever use of game mechanics' could be seen as an exploit.

IE: taking a step right, waiting a few seconds, taking a step left, waiting a few second and repeating.
While the agro'd mobs run back and forth trying to get to you but because their pathing is messed up they never get to you.
Repeating what I already said.

That's how it's different than running in circles. But I commend you for point that out.

[Legidias]

Is this any different than using said pathing to escape from mobs? Lowbies in MM, if they get too much stuff, can run up the little ledge near zone out so that mobs go up that then circle back around so the player can escape safely.

Or in sol a, you can hop through the window near LS zone out and mobs will run the regular route.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Legidias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is this any different than using said pathing to escape from mobs?

Yes, raiding has additional rules. Meaning it's more regulated than day to day gameplay.
see stickies here: https://www.project1999.com/forums/f...splay.php?f=69

Just stating this to try and keep this thread on topic.
I do see your point about these zones Legidias

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes I realize the pathing isn't ideal.

It's completely broken not just "isn't ideal". And as such is being manipulated to keep trash mobs busy.
Which brings us full circle to the OP of this topic.

Is this allowed?

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You can't compare an blatant exploit to regular gameplay.

Not to mention is this classic?,..
To dive deeper down this rabbit hole,. Were mob's pathing able to be manipulated like this during live's classic-velious eq?

[Baler]

Daldaen I think you're here for the wrong reasons.

This thread is a question, I'm not accusing anyone as you notice I don't mention names. It seems highly suspicious that you're so up in arms about my question being wrong.

And furthermore a cheat/expoit/clever use of game mechanics could care less about time span. 1ms to infinity.

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If you don't know if this is allowed then just say that. You seem to understand what I'm talking about so you don't need proof.

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And for anyone jumping into this thread now,. please start at the top.

[Baler]

I made a thread asking a question. Simple as that. Idk what you're trying to turn it into.

[William_Munny15]

I think it falls on pathing exploit? I think it's frowned upon , I forget if there was a post about it , but I think i remember one of the GM's saying it's considered an exploit if they catch you?

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are raid guilds allowed to use bad pathing to keep trash mobs (non raid targets) busy during a raid?

Yes it's allowed.

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