Do Druids have anything over Shammy other then ports?

VincentVolaju · #1 06-11-2011, 01:10 PM

So getting pretty discouraged with me Druid, I originally made it cause I was thinking like "Oh I hate traveling, Ill get ports, heals and buffs, everyone will want me! And if they don't, Ill solo!"

However its not exactly feeling that great anymore lol. It seems like Shamans get all the same types of buffs I get, plus some other better ones like haste. They can melee decently, they get a pet, they get slows/debuffs, they have self manastone, they a ton more normal stat buffs, there usually taken over a Druid in groups, and they can solo better then a Druid too right?

Its just kinda like, damn if I didn't have ports would there be any other reason to play this Druid over playing a Shaman? Really considering rerolling atm lol, unless there is something im missing here?

Kika Maslyaka · #2 06-11-2011, 01:24 PM

until druids get their dot stacking in late velious, shaman is in every way better for groups.
Druid can probably solo some thing shamans can't approach in melee by root+dot, and snare comes VERY handy for many things - buts its very long and very boring way to play the game...
And yeah you can port =)
I had a druid main on LIVE - or at least I tried - it didn't really got good until PoP+ era.
I ended up mostly porting around and selling things to buy twink gear

VincentVolaju · #3 06-11-2011, 01:40 PM

Thats EXACTLY the path it feels like im going down right now lol ... I am usually always not picked for a group when there is a shaman lfg also. So I tried soloing until I could get a group but the whole root, dot, dot, sit and wait for root to wear off style of solo is sooo long and boring and makes me wanna kill myself. So Ive prob spent 50% of the time just trading in EC, or porting around and offering ports to other zones. Its "alright" money I suppose for the amount of effort it takes which is basically zero lol. But other then that I feel so useless compared to other class's, and the main way to solo just feels like its so not effcient at all and way too slow.

The best part about Druid I think is being able to bind myself at an exp spot, and just gate back instantly when I want to level, while still being able to port to WC for example to trade and in EC etc. That is really the only part about Druid that I am liking right now ... so I am kind of between just sticking out and try to continue leveling or to just scrap it now and start something else before I invest any more time into it =/

Frytard · #4 06-11-2011, 02:30 PM

Nope Shamans are Overpowered

Kika Maslyaka · #5 06-11-2011, 02:40 PM

yeah exactly how it was for me on live [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
if you want to be support group healer/buffer - better go shaman now. and SLOW - never gets obsolete - you will be guaranteed a spot in every raid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you looking for more soloing power - then necro pretty much is the easiest path to go, and their dps contribution to a group still many times greater than druids.

Gamgypsy · #6 06-11-2011, 02:40 PM

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the whole root, dot, dot, sit and wait for root to wear off style of solo is sooo long and boring

It speeds things up a good amount by charming a pet and putting the damage shield on it then sending it after your root/dotted enemy. Don't worry about letting the pet heal after battles - once it gets to like 13% hp or so you can cast camouflage on yourself and you'll lose the pet, but at 13% hp it'll end up running away from you (slowly) so you can just dot it for full dot dmg while it runs for life, and continue killing the mob you originally had root and dotted. The pet will die and give you full xp, in addition to the current mob you're working on rooting and dotting.

So yeah, that's playing it like a pet class now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SupaflyIRL · #7 06-11-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

until druids get their dot stacking in late velious, shaman is in every way better for groups.
Druid can probably solo some thing shamans can't approach in melee by root+dot, and snare comes VERY handy for many things - buts its very long and very boring way to play the game...
And yeah you can port =)
I had a druid main on LIVE - or at least I tried - it didn't really got good until PoP+ era.
I ended up mostly porting around and selling things to buy twink gear

I seem to remember shamans being way better soloers (on tough mobs like nameds and WW dragons etc) than druids in velious. They could solo about as well as my monk druid duo thanks to slow and regen.

soup · #8 06-11-2011, 04:39 PM

I played a druid to 50 before Kunark, and now I play a 56 shaman. Druid is basically a crappy version of a shaman that can port. I'm actually bound at the firepots so they don't even that going for them from my perspective. Shaman buff better, they have cannibalize, they debuff, they group better, they solo better for the most part (45+ with a JBB you're right on par with necro/mage soloing)

In my mind, playing a druid at this point is laughable at best.

Pyrocat · #9 06-11-2011, 04:41 PM

Druids beat shamans when it comes to exp soloing rate. Boss mob soloing, shamans win every time. Group desirability, shamans win.

soup · #10 06-11-2011, 04:58 PM

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Druids beat shamans when it comes to exp soloing rate.

I'm inclined to disagree with that, assuming you're 45+ and have a JBB.

And before 34 druids can't even really quad can they? That would leave them with 11 levels of an exp advantage, with the rest either being equal or to the shamans favor.

Druid is a lot more boring too. Do a quad, go AFK while medding. Do a quad, go AFK while medding.