How much do Clerics need CHA?

[tadkins]

If I had the urge to roll up a halfling cleric, just wondering how much the 50 starting CHA is going to hurt me. I figured lull + sneak would be a pretty decent combo for getting around and I wouldn't want to worry about lulls failing all the time.

Are there cleric-usable items I can go for that have good chunks of +CHA?

[Toxigen]

It just depends on how you plan on using your cleric.

Big groups along the xp superhighway? Don't sweat.

Weird solo / duos / trios in higher risk dungeons? Deep dungeon CRs? Worth every penny.

And yes there are cleric items w/ +CHA on it...but imo if you're going for the true min/max cleric you want as much cha as possible.

[zelld52]

Charisma is super-important for cleric if you plan on using the Pacify line at all. Charisma doesn't affect the chance of being successful, but it does affect the chance of aggro on a resist.

The formula for rolls to check for crit resist are (apparently):

MobRoll = (((MobMR + MobLevel) / 3) / MobMaxMR) + (RandomFloat(-0.1, 0.1))

CasterRoll = (((CasterCha + CasterLevel / 3) / CasterMaxCha) + (RandomFloat(-0.1, 0.1))

So with 50 charisma, at level 30 - You get + 0.105 added to your roll between -0.1 and 0.1. If that number is lower than the mob roll, you get aggro.

With 150 charisma, at level 30 - You get + 0.235 added to your roll between -0.1 and 0.1. Much higher chance of beating the mob roll on a resist.

[enjchanter]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Charisma is super-important for cleric if you plan on using the Pacify line at all. Charisma doesn't affect the chance of being successful, but it does affect the chance of aggro on a resist.

The formula for rolls to check for crit resist are (apparently):



So with 50 charisma, at level 30 - You get + 0.105 added to your roll between -0.1 and 0.1. If that number is lower than the mob roll, you get aggro.

With 150 charisma, at level 30 - You get + 0.235 added to your roll between -0.1 and 0.1. Much higher chance of beating the mob roll on a resist.

Do you have the charm formulas as welm

[zelld52]

Here's a few items with +CHA and other useful stats for cleric.

Back: https://wiki.project1999.com/Othmir_Fur_Cloak
Chest: https://wiki.project1999.com/Sebilite_Scale_Coat
Face: https://wiki.project1999.com/Bone_Mask_of_the_Jarsath
Legs: https://wiki.project1999.com/Sebilite_Scale_Leggings
Neck: https://wiki.project1999.com/Amulet_of_Insight
Waist: https://wiki.project1999.com/Sludged_Girdle

Those are "full-time" items, that are beneficial to clerics and also have charisma. But, it's a good idea to have a seperate charisma set for the times when you want to Lull your way through a dungeon. Having gear that you just swap in to Lull, and then going back to your normal gear during a fight.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Category:Cleric_Equipment <---- Here's a list of Cleric Equipment by slot. Sort by Charisma, sort by No Drop/Droppable, and go shopping for a charisma set.

At 45, save up for a Donal's Bracer of Mourning for mana-free Pacify. With high charisma, cleric can get just about anywhere.

Have fun!

[Crede]

Originally Posted by tadkins [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I had the urge to roll up a halfling cleric, just wondering how much the 50 starting CHA is going to hurt me. I figured lull + sneak would be a pretty decent combo for getting around and I wouldn't want to worry about lulls failing all the time.

Are there cleric-usable items I can go for that have good chunks of +CHA?

Cha is huge. Go human inny for best fashion, 2nd best cha, snare neck, deadeye clicky, and liked by good/evil.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cha is huge. Go human inny for best fashion, 2nd best cha, snare neck, deadeye clicky, and liked by good/evil.

pgud advice here

[tadkins]

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Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cha is huge. Go human inny for best fashion, 2nd best cha, snare neck, deadeye clicky, and liked by good/evil.

Humans don't have the cute little battle dress though. Also Bristlebane is just more chill than Innoruuk. xD

[Crede]

Originally Posted by tadkins [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Humans don't have the cute little battle dress though. Also Bristlebane is just more chill than Innoruuk. xD

I don't really see the advantage of hide/sneak on a cleric. If you're gonna go small Gnome Bristlebane with wallvision would be much better IMO.

Good luck!

[tadkins]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't really see the advantage of hide/sneak on a cleric. If you're gonna go small Gnome Bristlebane with wallvision would be much better IMO.

Good luck!

B-but...battle dress!

I do understand where you're coming from though. Hide/sneak does offer some neat trick potential, like using KoS merchants and doing faction shenanigans, but I guess in the grand scheme of things it doesn't make a huge difference. Female halfling really is just an aesthetic choice for me.