Game Mechanics: Monk ability:Stonestance

Rais · #1 05-30-2011, 11:41 PM

Stonestance isn't working as it was before the patch. I can post before and after. The Before, is off a lvl 46 NPC in Chardok

The max hit that his npc has done to me that I can see in my logs is:126
The max hit with stonestance on was:15.

This is just to show the difference in Max without stonestance, and Max with.

[Fri May 20 00:41:11 2011] A sarnak janissary hits YOU for 126 points of damage.

Quote:

[Fri May 20 01:18:36 2011] Your body becomes one with the earth.
[Fri May 20 01:18:36 2011] A sarnak janissary hits YOU for 8 points of damage.
[Fri May 20 01:18:36 2011] A sarnak janissary hits YOU for 5 points of damage.
[Fri May 20 01:18:39 2011] A sarnak janissary hits YOU for 15 points of damage.
[Fri May 20 01:18:39 2011] A sarnak janissary hits YOU for 7 points of damage.
[Fri May 20 01:18:41 2011] A sarnak janissary kicks YOU for 1 point of damage.
[Fri May 20 01:18:41 2011] A sarnak janissary hits YOU for 15 points of damage.
[Fri May 20 01:18:44 2011] A sarnak janissary hits YOU for 15 points of damage.
[Fri May 20 01:18:47 2011] A sarnak janissary hits YOU for 10 points of damage.
[Fri May 20 01:18:49 2011] A sarnak janissary hits YOU for 5 points of damage.
[Fri May 20 01:18:49 2011] You are no longer one with the earth..

After the patch with stonestance, before/during stonestance tonight. The fight didn't last long after I popped stonestance.I'm sure if the fight went on, it still would have hit me for the max before stonestance was enabled.

Quote:

[Mon May 30 23:09:30 2011] A phantom tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Mon May 30 23:09:30 2011] A phantom hits YOU for 68 points of damage.
[Mon May 30 23:09:30 2011] A phantom hits YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Mon May 30 23:09:30 2011] A phantom bashes YOU for 50 points of damage.
[Mon May 30 23:09:38 2011] A phantom bashes YOU for 50 points of damage.
[Mon May 30 23:09:54 2011] A phantom hits YOU for 56 points of damage.
[Mon May 30 23:10:01 2011] Your body becomes one with the earth.
[Mon May 30 23:10:03 2011] A phantom hits YOU for 43 points of damage.
[Mon May 30 23:10:04 2011] A phantom hits YOU for 42 points of damage.
[Mon May 30 23:10:07 2011] A phantom hits YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Mon May 30 23:10:11 2011] A phantom hits YOU for 45 points of damage.
[Mon May 30 23:10:14 2011] A phantom hits YOU for 48 points of damage.
[Mon May 30 23:10:14 2011] A phantom hits YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Mon May 30 23:10:16 2011] You are no longer one with the earth..

h0tr0d (shaere) · #2 05-31-2011, 04:32 AM

Yeah I don't recall, but it seems mitigation, or a change to how AC works could explain how we get hit for more, and hit mobs for less regarding disciplines or just normal melee.

But you are right, stonestance is pretty much no longer a viable option for me.

Treats · #3 05-31-2011, 05:32 AM

STONE STANCE (Level 51): When using this discipline, the monk will take roughly 1/3rd damage from most physical attacks. This discipline lasts for 12 seconds, and has a base reuse time of 12 minutes. The reuse time for this discipline will decrease as the monk gains additional levels.

Thats taken from the EQ manual Supplement found here:

https://www.project1999.org/forums/s...ad.php?t=26867

Something does seem a little off with it. From Rais's log post patch vs the phantom with Stonestance on looks like he should be being hit for 10-20 damage or so.

Versus · #4 05-31-2011, 09:51 AM

This should be looked into further. I'll try to dig up some info...Pre-patch I think the mitigation was 90%. And I think (?) I remember reading that statistic elsewhere as well. Even if it is only supposed to be "one third," that isn't the case at the moment.

Azzbad · #5 05-31-2011, 10:35 AM

The problem is the NPC min dmg hit is being applied instead of the 90% mitigation of the hit. This was tested on Uthgaard-spawned mobs and I assume he has all the info needed to fix this.

**kanras** · #6 05-31-2011, 03:51 PM

There was a post two pages back on this that I already answered. Please use search before posting in the future.

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You're misunderstanding what portion of melee damage is mitigated by disciplines. This is a bug fix. See patch notes re:defensive.

h0tr0d (shaere) · #7 05-31-2011, 05:50 PM

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You're misunderstanding what portion of melee damage is mitigated by disciplines. This is a bug fix. See patch notes re:defensive.

I did read it, but what was the portion then that is mitigated? I remember Stonestance as a much more viable option and now, eh.

I also note in classic and kunark I could tank mobs. I could tank fire giants fine, better then a warrior most times as my avoidance meant more then their ac. Now I can't even tank a LDC at 60 without needing 2 complete heals. I feel like a paper tank, or rangers pre kunark, and it isn't right.

Azzbad · #8 06-04-2011, 10:00 AM

Stonestance is broken. See below.....or should the disc actually make npc dps greater? notice the BASH damage...................................?

Stonestance was used to position npcs like tormax, AoW, NTOV dragons. It is *not* working as intended.

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Structures_Fall · #9 06-07-2011, 11:18 AM

How is this not being addressed? This is a major issue. Where are the patch notes that say stonestance is anything other than 90% mitigation? Also...disc timers are messed...

Rais · #10 06-07-2011, 12:14 PM

The disc timers are correct. When kunark came out you could only use one till the timer was done. And they were on different timers.

As to stonestnce ..yea.