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Old 08-15-2024, 02:18 AM
Wakanda Wakanda is offline
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Default Is it better to use low level slows?

Serious question. I played Enchanter a lot on TLP and the meta over there wasn’t to use your high level slow, but to use lower level ones because they were more efficient? Is it the same way on P99? Weird question to ask, but I solod my whole career but am finally starting to consider grouping and am curious if I should start using my best slows while in groups or just stick to using tepid deeds [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also is Tashania considered good on p99? On TLP I learned after I did the whole quest that most people consider it not worth the extra mana for the little diff it makes?

I know these prob seem like dumb questions but I’m being serious. Playing on TLP messed me up.
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Old 08-15-2024, 08:18 AM
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Depends what your doing.
If your grinding low blue mobs,tepid deeds is fine. If your pulling a tough named the best slow you have is the way to go. Always use the best tash you have,especially for charm pets
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Old 08-15-2024, 09:19 AM
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IMHO I would communicate with the main healer as to how their mana is doing on average. Unless you have to tackle a lot of npc’s in a short amount of time clerics can keep up with quite a bit of healing with clarity.

If you are reliant on say a Druid healer, or you get a nasty combo of quantity & intensity, I would up-rank the slow if you can spare the mana.
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Old 08-15-2024, 09:19 AM
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I solod (facetanked with 2hb) and I used level 5 Drowsy until I got Turgur's at level 51.

Drowsy is 25% guaranteed reduction in damage output and only costs 20 mana. It was very helpful to keep downtime between fights short or nonexistent while levelling. It also has half the cast time of the other shaman slows between level 5-51. By level 51 I couldn't face tank reliably unless it had a nice big slow on it. In groups I still used Drowsy primarily.

As an enchanter, I didn't use slow unless I was in a group without it - or at level 60 when I started keeping my pet for multiple fights. In groups, I used the lowest level slow. Stuff dies quickly enough, and it's just the most efficient.

At 60, in plat farms etc? I always use the latest, greatest slow.
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Old 08-15-2024, 10:22 AM
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If you’re using DS you’ll want to find the sweet spot of minimising damage vs maximising hits from ds.

In groups with fast kills you’ll want to consider the number of hits slow is really stopping. Do you need to use your best slow against every green con level 39 cleric?
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Old 08-15-2024, 02:03 PM
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Definitely use your best tash. The mana cost difference is i believe 10 mana. Perhaps it costs more on TLPs?

You got answers above but ill add i agree often downranking slows CAN be a good idea. Really depends on the circumstance.
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Old 08-15-2024, 04:17 PM
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IMHO I would communicate with the main healer as to how their mana is doing on average. Unless you have to tackle a lot of npc’s in a short amount of time clerics can keep up with quite a bit of healing with clarity.

If you are reliant on say a Druid healer, or you get a nasty combo of quantity & intensity, I would up-rank the slow if you can spare the mana.

This is the answer.

Basically your slow is preventing damage that the healer then doesn't have to heal. If their mana is good, then you can use weaker slows or maybe no slows at all. If they start to get low mana and you have plenty of mana then you can help the healer out some by throwing in some bigger slows. So be in communication with the healer and try to balance out each other's mana bars.
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Old 08-16-2024, 11:15 AM
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Tepid Deeds should be used most of the time for general grouping. It casts much faster and is more mana efficient than your higher level slow spells. I find it annoying how that spell is more mana efficient than the Shaman 50% slow, Tagar's Insects, when Shaman are supposed to be the best at slowing.
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Old 08-16-2024, 01:10 PM
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I only cast forlorn when I'm soloing and I'm actively trying to extend my pets life. Outside of that there's basically no reason not to use tepid

Cheaper, faster cast
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Old 08-17-2024, 12:23 PM
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I find it annoying how that spell is more mana efficient than the Shaman 50% slow, Tagar's Insects, when Shaman are supposed to be the best at slowing.
On a list of complaints playing the shaman class mana efficiency for downranked slows isn’t one of them.
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