On personhood

[F0rmsh1fter]

As per Oxford, the requirements of personhood are as follows: Personhood typically requires certain capacities such as consciousness, self-awareness, rationality, and the ability to engage in moral agency. These traits are often tied to legal rights and moral considerations, making the definition of personhood complex and context-dependent.

Based on these criteria, a large percentage of the population does not qualify, or at least appears not to. Why then do we -predominantly in western countries- operate under the disproportionately equitable assumption that all men are created equal? The allotment of rights as a blanket vs merit based I feel is detrimental to society and our species as a whole.

This is not to say that anyone is objectively superior to anyone else in general (though everyone is better at something than someone else and vice versa. For instance Floyd mayweather could beat me in a boxing match, but I can read a novel), but why is it that person a, who is incapable of critical thought and lacks any sort of moral substance should be afforded the same rights and freedoms as person b who is thoughtful and intelligent? This seems wildly unfair as equity is by definition, but the detriment it brings with it is hardly overcome by any value such a system adds. I’m hoping for meaningful philosophical debate with thoughtful responses, but I fear the majority will be person a type discourse

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[Ekco]

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[magnetaress]

Static, egocentric metrics of personhood are an illusion. Every aspect of personhood is temporary, constantly in flux, and influenced by its environment and past. The sooner this is accepted. The sooner liberation from personhood is achieved.

[Reiwa]

What did Satan say to tempt Jesus in the desert?

What shall it profit a man and all that jazz.

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[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What did Satan say to tempt Jesus in the desert?

What shall it profit a man and all that jazz.

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That is subjectively a very creepy haircut and eye liner. I however cannot tell you.. (It is unknown) which parts of thy person evokes such feelings.

[magnetaress]

Besides.

The real endgame is pizzahood 🍕😋

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[F0rmsh1fter]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Besides.

The real endgame is pizzahood 🍕😋

Good opportunity for metaphor

Is a single slice of pizza a pizza, or does one require every slice intact to be a pizza?

[F0rmsh1fter]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What did Satan say to tempt Jesus in the desert?

What shall it profit a man and all that jazz.

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Not really relevant, and that verse from mark isn’t part of Jesus being tempted in the desert. Are you implying one must lose their soul in order to achieve personhood?

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by F0rmsh1fter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good opportunity for metaphor

Is a single slice of pizza a pizza, or does one require every slice intact to be a pizza?

By definition once a slice is removed from a pizza that piece then becomes a slice of pizza where was for example said pizza had 8 slices the remains then becomes 7/8ths of a pizza. Both of these things are no longer subjectively or conceptually a pizza they become pizza adjacent, by qualification.

To be more precise. An 8 slice pizza becomes one slice if pizza and 7/8ths of an 8 slice pizza. This can be as granular and fine detailed as awareness and language permits. With many more properties and adjectives applied. However once something changes it is then something else. And everything in this reality or awareness is always changing from its inception. From likely before even the point of awareness.

Hedging all of ones bets on personhood or it's many variations there of remaining the same is a delusion.

[F0rmsh1fter]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By definition once a slice is removed from a pizza that piece then becomes a slice of pizza where was for example said pizza had 8 slices the remains then becomes 7/8ths of a pizza. Both of these things are no longer subjectively or conceptually a pizza they become pizza adjacent, by qualification.

Which is to say that one no longer qualifies as a person if any of the criteria are absent