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Old 08-01-2011, 02:56 AM
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With all the inflammatory bullshit floating around in this discussion I thought it was important to say a few things and maybe clarify a few of the distorted half-truths I've seen being shouted by idiot sheep. Unfortunately I had my say at the end of the wrong drawn-out thread, so I'm going to re-post it here on its own turf here since I think some people need to hear what it says.

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I think it's funny that this whole thing really escalated because of circumstances inherent to what is essentially the underdog guild.

We all started parking at the ledge around Trak's window a long time ago. I think that much is a given these days. As far as I'm concerned, this is poopsocking. Who is to blame for making it this competitive? I don't know, but it doesn't really matter. That much probably isn't going to ever change.

What I'm wondering is why the hell TR has to cry so hard over us clearing some Juggs. Your average TR member has more levels, better gear, and more money than your average TMO member; this is just a fact. We have plenty of people who are thrilled to get in on the experience gained clearing these mobs; some of our members still need levels. We have plenty of people who are thrilled to help their guildies get some experience, Trak window or not. We need some high end spells still. We need SCDs and BGDEs and all that good stuff. So why the fuck are you freaking out and only then claiming poopsock when we're just trying to further our guild in that sense? Just because the way to Trak was 100% clear once and we got more people more quickly than you and killed him, you have to start whining like wolves in heat. A clear lair is probably of benefit to you more since we can eat a larger train if the train-away goes awry. We officers never insisted that people stay and clear the Trak lair at all hours - PEOPLE JUST CHOSE TO DO SO SOMETIMES. It was of their own volition. People want levels and spells and gear and Juggs/Reets, with the support of most of the guild logged out at the ledge, is a fucking great place to do this. And yeah, some of it probably boils down to our members wanting to engage Trakanon first and being willing to spend a little more time in his lair as a result, but really, having an extra dozen people there doesn't really make a difference. Each guild still needs to have X people there of the right classes before an engagement can proceed. The simple fact of the matter is that lately TR has not been able to mobilize enough of the right people quickly enough.

TR is the guild that first parked people on Trak's spawn on that false-alarm rolling repop day, and TR is the guild that parked people on his spawn first this last window. I don't want to sit there any more than anyone else but god damn it, I will if I have to. I'd do cartwheels clear across these great United States just to deny TR a Phinny kill.

TR is escalating the bullshit in Trakanon's lair (and the forums) in an effort to turn things into a huge ridiculous circus so that they can press for yet another rule change that benefits them.

I personally like FTE; it is fair and it makes things easy for the GMs. The 15man rule was absurd not just because of the finagling involved, but because of the amount of GM effort required in reviewing proof of fifteen. If TR is so fucking concerned with having to sit on Trakanon's spawn, maybe they should not park a fuckton of people right on his god damn spawn this time. Or maybe their leadership should cordially approach ours about deescalating the situation. I refuse to believe for even one second that TR is truly behind any sort of proposed rotation; this is just an effort to add to the existing absurdity.

Most people are probably fine but there's a few of you (on both sides) who need to learn to both win AND lose with a little grace and dignity. I love how for a while TR tried to act like no group of people other than them could handle these encounters. It's nothing tricky - levels and resists. I bet if you gave Taken two weeks to collect PR gear they could kill Trakanon easy. It's not fucking rocket science. I am a proponent of always doing things as efficiently and effectively as possible, but let's be honest here: it is not fucking difficult to learn what you need to do in a single situation and do it.

To VD, BDA, and Taken: You looking to kill Trakanon sometime? Let me give you some advice: get levels, gear, a tentative strategy, and go engage him first. That's what we're doing. It is not tricky. But no matter how we do it, no matter the circumstances, TR is going to cry when they lose. Go ahead and cry all you want TR. There's no pity here. As far as friendly play goes on the raiding scene, your kind has been a cloud of shit looming over the server for much too long. I don't know who the hell you think you're fooling when you come here acting like you have halos over your damn heads.

I see all this bullshit on the boards and hear whisperings in game and I think of the T1000 in the vat of molten metal at the end of Terminator 2, trying to find a form that can survive. Squirm all you want Perun and friends; you're gonna get got any way you cut it.
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:58 AM
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Old 08-01-2011, 02:58 AM
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oh. I started reading and this isn't about naked girls.

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Old 08-01-2011, 02:59 AM
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Old 08-01-2011, 03:00 AM
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Old 08-01-2011, 03:01 AM
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Old 08-01-2011, 03:02 AM
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actually I'm only in 1 of these, like, 5? 6? recent trak threads.

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Old 08-01-2011, 03:03 AM
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Old 08-01-2011, 03:03 AM
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Clicked title thinking "TITTIES!!!"


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Old 08-01-2011, 03:03 AM
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