Handing off camps - legal?

[Byrjun]

I'm curious about the legality of handing off camps to someone else.

For example, say Soandso is camping a mob, and I sit there waiting for the camp to open up. Are they allowed to "give" the camp to someone who just zoned in, while I've been waiting longer? That seems to go against the general camp rules that have been established. If it's allowed than that's okay, but I just don't know what the ruling is and I've been curious lately.

[Yaolin]

I have never heard of that being okay. If it was then one guild could dominate a camp and inflate the price like crazy, but what do I know.

[Zade]

"We do not have a rule for how a camp will be handed off to another player. It is recommended the player interested in obtaining a camp work that out with who is on the camp already.
*Example* Player a is on jboots, player b comes and sits and just waits. If player a wants to hand off to his friend rather than player b, he has that right. If player a wants to hold a list and give to the next player on that list, that is also his right. GMs will not moderate that unless player b can prove he was deceived by player a with how the camp would be handed off. "


http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2653

[pharmakos]

"there are no lists?"

Originally Posted by Zade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If player a wants to hold a list and give to the next player on that list, that is also his right.

^^ from the mouth of a guide

my thought was the same as you guys, that player B can do whatever the hell he wants with the list player A hands him, i just wanted to hear it officially

would prefer if player B had to respect player A's list but the potential headaches are vast

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by pharmakos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"there are no lists?"



^^ from the mouth of a guide

my thought was the same as you guys, that player B can do whatever the hell he wants with the list player A hands him, i just wanted to hear it officially

would prefer if player B had to respect player A's list but the potential headaches are vast

You can't say there is a list, if the next person in line can do whatever he wants.

Person 1 can make a list with 400 people down it and number 2 can screw the other 399.

So, there are no lists. Go ahead and remove that from your brain.

Person A makes list, person B takes over, person C now has no camp because Person B is giving to X.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't say there is a list, if the next person in line can do whatever he wants.

Person 1 can make a list with 400 people down it and number 2 can screw the other 399.

So, there are no lists. Go ahead and remove that from your brain.

Person A makes list, person B takes over, person C now has no camp because Person B is giving to X.

So what your really saying is people in 2013 playing a game from 1999 are more selfish then people in 1999 playing a brand new game. Really goes to show how ass backwards this all is.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So what your really saying is people in 2013 playing a game from 1999 are more selfish then people in 1999 playing a brand new game. Really goes to show how ass backwards this all is.

Pretty much. The best you can hope for is to find people that are willing to agree to pass off camps in a list and invite them.

Basically, if person A tells B he can have a camp, person A can't change his mind and give to C when he's done, there by screwing B.

B can petition and get the camp as A mislead him (that's happened before, you can't mislead someone).

[falkun]

The original camp owner may do whatever they like with the camp when they relinquish it. That includes (but not limited to):
1) Handing it over to friends/guildies, screwing any "list" of people in line.
2) Just leaving and letting new people fight for it.
3) Handing it over to next in line/on the list.

The only camp outside of this rule is the Chancellor of Dizok, which is first-come-first serve, so sit your ass in line.

One guild did dominate a camp and inflate prices like crazy: see Kunark release Circlets of Shadow + TMO, or Lockets of Escape + TMO. While IB/TR was getting dragon loots, TMO was 'socking Droga. But I guess it worked out for them in the end.

[Alarti0001]

Simply put handing over a camp is completely legal.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Simply put handing over a camp is completely legal.

Unless otherwise directed by a GM... like that loio camp at one point.