Rogue Gear

[HippoNipple]

As I'm leveling up my main I want to pick up a couple rogue items along the way for a new character. I don't care about having top gear, just want some suggestions on some mid level gear. I have also never even made a melee character so it will all be new to me. I know I have read stuff about what makes best main hand and offhand before but when I typed in rogue in the forum search I didn't find anything worth while.

Should a rogue have their lowest delay in offhand, or highest damage? Piercing in main hand allows you to backstab meaning you can have a slashing in offhand?

As far as gear goes I guess ravenscale is what I need to go for, but what are some decent weapons I could aim for as I level up my necro?

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As I'm leveling up my main I want to pick up a couple rogue items along the way for a new character. I don't care about having top gear, just want some suggestions on some mid level gear. I have also never even made a melee character so it will all be new to me. I know I have read stuff about what makes best main hand and offhand before but when I typed in rogue in the forum search I didn't find anything worth while.

Should a rogue have their lowest delay in offhand, or highest damage? Piercing in main hand allows you to backstab meaning you can have a slashing in offhand?

As far as gear goes I guess ravenscale is what I need to go for, but what are some decent weapons I could aim for as I level up my necro?

This is probably one of the best early rogue daggers...

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=2654

That's all I know =)

[Humerox]

From the Gear Reference thread...

Rogue:

Hat: Crested Helm, Blackened Iron Crown, Exe Hood
Mask: Dented Brass Mask, Platinum Ruby Veil
Earrings: Diamondine Earrings
Chest: Brigadine Tunic, Mithril BP
Arms: Mithril Vambraces, Platinum Armband, Bone Armplates
Waist: Flowing Black Silk Sash, Thick Banded Belt, Drakescale Belt, Troll Hide Belt
Wrist: Granite Bracer, Hero Bracer
Legs: Mithril Greaves, Bone Legplates, Drake Hide Legs, Silver Plated Legs
Gloves: Woven Shadow Gauntlets, Gem Inlaid Gauntlets, Elf Hide Gloves
Necklace: Runed Lava Pendant
Shoulders: Bloodstained Mantle, Crested Spaulders
Cape: Hooded Black Cloak, Werewolf Skin Cloak, Cloak of Shadows
Boots: Dwarven Work Boots, Kobold Hide Boots
Rings: Djarn's Amethyst Ring, Platinum Fire Emerald Ring, Jagged Band
Main Hand: Trident of the Seven Seas, Eyerazzia, Gloomwater Harpoon
Off Hand: Gloomwater Harpoon, Electrum Bladed Wakizashi, Stiletto of the Bloodclaw, Obsidian Shard
Ranged: Runed Bone Fork, Dragoon Dirk

[azeth]

We twinked Azeth with the following:

2x Platinum Bloodstone Earring
Crested Helm
Golden Black Pearl Choker
2x Platinum Fire Wedding Rings
Mithril Greaves
Mithril BP
Mithril Arms
Hooded Black Cloak
Dwarven Work Boots
Troll Hide Belt
Crested Spaulders
Elf Hide Gloves
Polished Steel Dirk
Electrum Bladed Wakizashi (bought fangs and quested it @ lvl 14)
Guise of the Deceiver
2x Fire Emerald Golden Bracers

171 str
118 sta
124 agi
110 dex
HP - 1064
AC - (he has an extremely low defense skill) 309
ATK - 643

He's level 35, basically went all Str/HP for the time being for survivability and the above suit cost about 14k considering Kashi does our JC.

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Should a rogue have their lowest delay in offhand, or highest damage? Piercing in main hand allows you to backstab meaning you can have a slashing in offhand?

1. Highest damage in mainhand
2. Any type (1hb/slash) works in offhand.
3. Despite rumors and hearsay your offhand weapon should always be the one with the best ratio. Delay/damage speculation has no basis. EBW = 7 dmg 21 delay, 21/7 = 3. Polished Steel Dirk = 8 dmg 23 delay, 23/8 = 2.875. Offhand PSD > EBW.

[HippoNipple]

Cool thanks guys, thats great info. Is ravenscale not in the game or something? For instance the mithril bp is just agility and hps right? I was going to go for all Str/Dex for damage and just hope I dont get hit much. I will not be trying to power level or anything. I just plan on grouping and being DPS.

[Virtuosos]

ravenscale BP is the only thing worth getting IMHO

and it IS in the game, sells for like 1k or something for the chest, maybe a tiny bit more (hell i had someone willing tosell for like 700 the other day)

[Itchybottom]

The route I've found for best solo-ability on a lowbie twink rogue thus far works like this...

Pre-dual wield: Gloomwater Harpoon in main hand for opening backstabs, and swapped in for extra hits, Polished Granite Tomahawk the rest of the fight. That rune proc makes you superman until level 17ish, and still works limitedly after that (it's broken, it heals you....)

Early dual wield: Same tactic, Burning Rapier in off-hand for the +Dex

Starting at level 18: Stiletto of the Bloodclaw in main hand, Burning Rapier in offhand (I stopped bothering with larger offload backstab, because the Stiletto procs like crazy with just 130 dex)

Level 23: Procs in the offhand seem to be getting more effective at this duel wield skill, so I've switched the Burning Rapier to my main hand for more actual melee hits landing, with Bloodclaw to off hand. I'm considering going back to the other way though, since offhand procing still seems less frequent.

Future plans based on what I've witnessed 22-24 -- Level 28: Two Serrated Bone Dirks, and a lot of Intimidation spam. Intimidation goes off like crazy at 115+ skill on blues. At 30, when the Burning Rapier proc kicks in, I think that'll be switched to my main hand with a Serrated Bone Dirk in my offhand.

There are too many misses in melee on EQEMU to use a slow main hand weapon with something facing you, mitigation is all screwed up and you're dealing with more luck than steady damage. Later (40+) you'll want to take azeth's advice on the main hand weapon being the highest damage, due to mobs Riposting their ass off for no reason other than the ripose formula is wrong. But a faster main hand, and your highest damage weapon in offhand is going to parse higher on any current EQEMU server and in some cases on live from this era (depends on the mob AC and level difference)

For grouping until your 30s? Burning Rapier in your main hand, Gloomwater Harpoon in your offhand will be bread and butter. After the rapier starts proccing, and your Hide skill is high enough for Evade to not consistently fail, you'll want to swap things around and go Polished Steel Dirk + Burning Rapier until you get your hands on an Eyerezzia or Crystalline Spear to pair with said Burning Rapier. Keep that Polished Granite Tomahawk around for grouping -- runes REALLY add hate on EQEMU (almost as much as stuns) and you just might save a cleric from death by utilizing that proc and Intimidation hate.

[Elissa]

Originally Posted by Virtuosos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ravenscale BP is the only thing worth getting IMHO

and it IS in the game, sells for like 1k or something for the chest, maybe a tiny bit more (hell i had someone willing tosell for like 700 the other day)

Ravenscale gloves really aren't that bad either, and look sexy... if you can find them relatively cheap (<300). That's just my personal preference mostly for looks, though. Otherwise, elf-hide gloves or gem-inlaid gauntlets are the way to go.