Item loot thread

[Nirgon]

We can play every other MMO out there right now for pvp without item loot.

When can PvP become 4 levels?

What's the hold up with getting item loot if Nilbog is in favor of it?

When is this server actually going to be red EQ?!

[heartbrand]

I've given this some more thought and my conclusion is that item loot would absolutely decimate this server pop. I've been helping a lot of new comers to the server in VV, and there's no way most of these people would keep on grinding if they lost their shiny loots every time they got ganked by twinked out chars killing them with OOR healers. Terribad idea at this point.

[Tradesonred]

As i think this will never happen (I think Nilbog said it wouldnt), i have an alternative solution ive proposed a couple of times on the forums.

You hail a NPC like the priest of discord, and it flags you as a "deep red" pvper. Once you are flagged, you cannot flag back for a fixed amount of time, i propose 1 week.

You can only loot, and be looted by, players who have been flagged "deep red" by the item loot NPC. There is no way for anyone to know whos deep red until you kill him and see if you can take 1 item.

I know there would be many ways to exploit this, feel free to point them out and suggest tweaks to this (or say its a shit idea that will never work, and point out your reasoning).

I think this would spice up pvp at some point, i for one would have fun rolling a toon with throwaway gear to pvp. New blood coming into the server could then actually sell the mid-tier loot they get for plats to older player gearing out these kinds of toons.

Yes i know, there will be naked gank squads. But its optional, so who cares.

You could even organize events in a zone (like the test CTF pvp zone on blue) where gear drops like on Rallos when you die. With rewards that goes along with the risk.

[Nirgon]

Yeah I'm just looking for a Rallos Zek rule set I guess.

I'll keep looking for that perfect server or play any of the other MMOs without item loot for now (read: yeah right).

I know people, myself included on live that lost "shiny loots" playing and didn't quit. *Shrug* gives people something to do other than farm camps and xp for progression and really promotes a PK/Anti-PK mentality.

[heartbrand]

You have much more resilience than do the players here. We've had new comers already who quit because they got corpse camped at level 20.

[Haul]

Ya I love Rallos Zek item loot and ruleset, good chance it could hurt population, but you never know.

[Vile]

Nirgon, I agree with almost everything you say, but as it's already been said, item loot would destroy the population.

Surprisingly, the server has some good momentum right now, it's just unfortunate for me (but not really), I rather spend my time building out new sites and make moar $$$ than log on any box..

Might be on this weekend if I am lucky.. still need that port bros.

[Dullah]

Item loot would never work here. Maybe on a server where everyone consented to it going in, but not after the server began with a different ruleset. The number of players who enjoyed item loot were the smallest minority among EQ players, and after 13 years, those players are all but absent.

Keep crusading for classic EQ, but this feature is likely never going to see the light of day again on a populated EQ server.

[Supreme]

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[Vile]

Atleast they've made some great changes here...

Pras Nilbog for sure. He's been up to bat for you bros getting shit done.

YT would probably complete things for most people.. I couldn't care either way about YT, I actually enjoy seeing screen shots posted on the forums with some hilarious editing.

And if that 50% bonus could stay in throughout Kunark, I might be able to hit lvl 25 one day.

Good luck bros.