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Old 08-16-2013, 05:05 AM
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Tonight in OOT on the Seafury island a pet class pulled a fury off me that had popped on me and aggroed, saying I hadn't damaged it and so it was up for grabs. I charm kite two mobs there at a time, keeping one as my pet (pet was almost dead so the aggroed mob was a free pull basically). I have to body pull the mob that isn't used as a pet so it aggroes my pet and not me - it's how aggro works, and is particularly sensitive on p99. If I damage the other mob in any way, it's almost impossible to charm kite it.

So, my question is, is that the way First To Engage (FTE) rules work on p99? Now the guy was just being a dick, but the point needs clarification. Does body aggro not qualify as aggro?

For the record (and I'm on Seafury Island almost every night lately) there are a lot of players who compete for seafuries, and it's understood I and other classes could pull the entire island and handle it easily if we wanted to. We don't do that, we share most of the time. I can say I'm always considerate of other players and have forgone mobs I could have taken because I know the other player has been looking for a while etc. So for me it's a matter of principle, not greed. The mob is irrelevant. The point is important (and also, I hate assholes in any form - in or out of game).
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:10 AM
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FTE = First person on the NPC aggro list. The type of aggro means nothing, be it body pulling, pet pulling, javelin, etc.
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:19 AM
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lemme guess.... was it Tiggles on his fag mage?
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:20 AM
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No Tiggles is actually good natured and fair from what I've seen - on Seafury Island anyway [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:31 AM
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Fairly sure 'fte' only applies to raid mobs. Also fairly sure that for all other types of mobs, its sort of a 'common sense' applies kind of thing. The mob was clearly yours. This guy was simply being a dick. Not much else to it.

I really think a lot of you would like red. It's not the shitfest its made out to be on the forums. I'm a bluebie and have been playing there lately and having lots of fun - plus, this kind of bogus bullshit doesn't happen over there. Most people are actually pretty cool and willing to help each other.

Not trying to pitch red btw, just thought i'd point that out because its relevant.
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Old 08-16-2013, 05:35 AM
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Oh, also relevant. FTE has always meant the first player the mob has aggro on. I believe sirken made some sort of rule change regarding fte to instead mean first to damage on certain raid mobs or in certain situations. Raid mobs being the key word.

My whole point, tolkien, is that you were in the right, that guy was being a dick, and I think in general it sounds like you're a stand up player in and out of game. Unfortunately, you're going to have to do what a stand up player does and be the better man and just move on. If it keeps happening its probably worth a petition.
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Old 08-16-2013, 06:38 AM
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FTE rules change with the position of the planets in the sky.
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Old 08-16-2013, 07:37 AM
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Tonight in OOT on the Seafury island a pet class pulled a fury off me that had popped on me and aggroed, saying I hadn't damaged it and so it was up for grabs. I charm kite two mobs there at a time, keeping one as my pet (pet was almost dead so the aggroed mob was a free pull basically). I have to body pull the mob that isn't used as a pet so it aggroes my pet and not me - it's how aggro works, and is particularly sensitive on p99. If I damage the other mob in any way, it's almost impossible to charm kite it.

So, my question is, is that the way First To Engage (FTE) rules work on p99? Now the guy was just being a dick, but the point needs clarification. Does body aggro not qualify as aggro?

For the record (and I'm on Seafury Island almost every night lately) there are a lot of players who compete for seafuries, and it's understood I and other classes could pull the entire island and handle it easily if we wanted to. We don't do that, we share most of the time. I can say I'm always considerate of other players and have forgone mobs I could have taken because I know the other player has been looking for a while etc. So for me it's a matter of principle, not greed. The mob is irrelevant. The point is important (and also, I hate assholes in any form - in or out of game).
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:18 AM
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Fairly sure 'fte' only applies to raid mobs. Also fairly sure that for all other types of mobs, its sort of a 'common sense' applies kind of thing. The mob was clearly yours. This guy was simply being a dick. Not much else to it.

I really think a lot of you would like red. It's not the shitfest its made out to be on the forums. I'm a bluebie and have been playing there lately and having lots of fun - plus, this kind of bogus bullshit doesn't happen over there. Most people are actually pretty cool and willing to help each other.

Not trying to pitch red btw, just thought i'd point that out because its relevant.
Actually, roaming mobs are FTE unless someone is camping a single spawn point.

You can't "camp" several sea furies. It's all about who can tag (fte) the fastest.

Most people use dmg as an indicator that they have tagged at sea furies tho, leaves no room for guessing. Body pulling is acceptable tho, just not standard there unless camping a single spawn.
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