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Old 10-22-2013, 08:51 PM
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Default Lhranc too easy and using wrong proc

Lhranc is the final SK epic fight in CoM. He is triggered after a turnin to the ghost form of Lhranc.

I took a log during the fight the other day. This is what I found is true for our server. He conned red to level 60s (should be level 70 but I can‘t tell). Did not harm touch. Log shows only 13 lifetap procs over an 80 second fight (32 point lifetap, should be 500 DD). However, my log shows it only landing 6 times (warrior was not wearing MR gear). So the resist rate for his lifetap proc is broken/nerfed just like it is for players. He took 18.15k melee damage, so he has something like 18k health after the small life tap procs. Max hit was 385, doubles which is correct. Average landed slash was 299 damage. Only did 3.6k melee damage over the whole 80 seconds.

Problems that I see:

1. The logs from my warrior friend show that he is being lifetapped for 32 damage, not 500.

Currently proccing this. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=821

Should be proccing this or something similar to it. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=995

“You feel as though your soul is being consumed.” Is the emote according to one post.


2. Lifetap is resisted too often. This is probably a result of him using the wrong spell. 6 out of 13 taps were resisted. I have not found a single source that even suggests the 500 point tap is resistible, much less that it’s easily resisted half of the time on a warrior wearing no MR gear.

3. Lifetap does not proc enough. As with many proccing mobs on this server (VS, Eye of Veeshan, and Xenorovash for instance.) Also possibly a result of him using wrong spell. Multiple reports that Lhranc procs on every successful hit or close to it. Might also proc on ripostes like VS. Highlighted in bold below.

4. Health may be too low. A few reports of him being a 32k mob. But evidence isn't really solid. Highlighted in red below.

5. Possibly should harmtouch, a few reports of this. Highlighted in blue below.

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6. I also see him trying to cast 11 times on my log. This may explain his very low melee damage (3.6K) and relatively few hits by the end of the my fight log. The ghost version of Lhranc does use SK spells. But there are no posts saying that the triggered version casts any.

Lhranc was a very difficult mob on live, comparable to VS. I talked to one SK on this server who said that on live, Lhranc killed 3 groups of level 60s during Velious era.

We had 6 level 60s. Two Sks, a warrior, two clerics, and a necro. We also had a group of level 50-51s who were exping in the zone join in. We should not have been able to kill him with this force, and only tried because he is known to be very weak on P99. He was very, very easy.

These sources are not from Kunark era, but I have found nothing in the patch notes archive even mentioning Lhranc at all so he should be the same mob.

Below are various quotes taken from here. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=5198


This guy hits between 200-350pts or so and lifetaps with every hit for 500pts.
He demolished our force fairly quickly (not sure who died and when since I was #3). We started by doing chain CHs 4 secs apart and quickly had to change to 2 secs apart (by then I think it was too late for the tanks regardless).

a constant 500pt lifetap

We did him last night and he is now at least a 68 (red to a 65). I was the MA and he did 500 dps to me while DEF was up. He did 155 dps melee and 345 from his 500 hp proc over the fight. In one 4 sec period he did 4138 damage for ~1000 dps.

350+ hp damage (doubles constantly), lifetaps for his usual 500 and CAN death touch though this is infrequent at best (only seen it on one raid of 3). He does dot and his HP is massive: he takes generally 4+ good groups to bring him down though most SK's bring 5 or 6 groups to be safe (and realize most of these will die but 1 or 2 groups will be left standing after tge carnage) as he has a nasty habit of lifetapping like a madman when he hits 1/3 life.

i can confirm this he is lvl 70 when you turn in epic parts and does proc 500dd every hit.

Did turn in and he respawned from ghost to human form. Ghost con was blue to me (Lvl 65) and human form was red. Had Cleric, Shadowknight, Warrior, Shaman, 2 Rangers ~ all 65 and time geared. Yep, one grouped him. Couldn't slow, but he killed shammy for trying. Warrior used defensive disc and held agro throughout. Very short fight - about 3 minutes from pull to marl spawn. Warrior tanked and said he proc'd 500 HT every hit.

Lhranc hit pallie for 300 with a 475 dd each hit. (this is during oow era with shielding)

finding out that hes lvl 70 now the hard way i almost thought that i was goin to have to go through all of it again, but i did find out that he has a very long timer when he's in human form (luckily). so the necro calls in a few ppl to come help with the fight. well get 2 70 SK's in there and he went down quick. and finally got my epic. and btw he HTed me for 1201 each time he did and DD proc is for 500 each time.

I took agro at first and got "writhes in agony" 1201 and 500 dd x 3 (tugs at soul) then 500 dd x 3 again before SK got agro, heh. So, did seem he proc'd every hit. Was so amazed at the rate of proc didn't even notice how hard he was hitting ...

procs a 500dd x20 within the first 8 secs of engaging max hit 358 on a 65 war with 1.5k ac

Can't think of the name myself. but the message is
"You feel as though your soul is being consumed"
500 point lifetap proc

I had forgotten why he raped the bejesus out of me before, but I remembered pretty quick that it was his proc that did me in. Seems pretty unresistable, and umm, frequent.

The following are taken from here. http://www.erollisimarr.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=22750

Only has about 32k hp, so enough dps should take him out, but I hear he can chew though 8k tanks like nothin.

If I can gather a good 3 groups, with lots of DPS and a few evasive wars/weaponshield rangers I know we can take him down in just a few minutes. Only 32k hp on him, after all.

The reason he eats through 8k tanks is because he procs his lifetap on every hit. At least, it was frequent enough to seem to be on every hit.

http://www.evilgamer.net/forums/arch...php?t-717.html

he procs the 500DD on Near every hit. and i mean like 14/15 hits. you will die fast
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:20 PM
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Well done
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:27 PM
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Nice. Just noting that his proc is a DD and not a lifetap as a lot of those posts claimed.
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:55 PM
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Yep, proc is a DD not lifetap -- Soul Devour

Should proc almost every hit or close to it.

http://thesaryrntavern.yuku.com/topi...3#.UmhuQ0TbquI

Cannot remember for sure but I don't think he used SK spellset on Live (or it was very very rarely that he would stop melee to cast the spells).
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:19 PM
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Ah thank you guys. So it's actually not a lifetap, and the spell link I posted was actually the correct thing. I didn't think it was.

If he isn't supposed to be casting, I also see him trying to cast 11 times on my log. There are no posts saying that the triggered version casts any SK spells, just the turnin mob uses them it looks like. This explains his very low melee damage by the end of the my fight log. Just 3.6k Updating this to OP.

This is one of his successful casts after 4 tries to channel it.

[Sat Oct 19 20:15:32 2013] Lhranc's hands begin to glow.

It's vampiric embrace. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=359


Just quoting something from Treats link to support that it should proc on every successful hit. It's the same proc that Eye of Veeshan uses, perhaps he should be proccing every hit also. Since EoV is very, very easy as well.


Quote:
Lharnc is a pain in the ass, for every time he lands a hit, you take 500 damage

ie:
Lharnc Tries to hit YOU but misses!
Lharnc Hits YOU for 214 Points of Damage!
You feel your Soul Being Consumed, You have Taken 500 Points of Damage.
Lharnc Hits YOU for 318 Points of Damage!
You feel your Soul Being Consumed, You have Taken 500 points of Damage.
Lharnc Hits YOU for 330 Points of Damage!
You feel your Soul Being Consumed, You have Taken 500 Points of Damage.
Lharnc Bashes YOU for 11 Points of Damage!
You feel your Soul Being Consumed, You have Taken 500 points of Damage.


Its Unresistable and he hits Fairly Fast, and since hes unslowable...

its not a lifetap, it just has the thing saying it was, if it were a lifetap he would be impossible to kill.
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Old 10-23-2013, 11:34 PM
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:46 PM
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Lharc indeed was an insanely badass encounter on live... SK epic was indeed a rough road.
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:11 PM
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i think all epic and raid mobs should be buffed. make eq hard.
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Old 10-24-2013, 03:14 PM
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http://www.legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2001-06-26

proof a group of LoS couldnt kill him with velious HoT / kael gear.
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Old 10-27-2013, 02:49 PM
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Fixed, pending update.

Spectral iksar form
-is a shadowknight that casts spells.

Human form
-is a shadowknight, but doesn't cast spells.
-Greatly increased the proc chance of Soul Devour.
-Increased HP/MR
-Removed his helm/made him larger.

Let me know how it works after next patch.
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