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Old 11-01-2014, 10:28 AM
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Angry Twitch / Muted Music / Thanks, Lawyers!

Play a song on your stream, Twitch mutes your archived stream. Thanks, lawyers!

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In the link above, notice how the music plays fine for the first 28 minutes, and then out of nowhere, the ENTIRE rest of the stream is muted. This stream is just a loop of the same three songs for an hour, as I was trying to figure out if my most recent edits* to the songs would get them past the fingerprinting.

*I've tried it all: I've shifted the pitch several times. I've changed the tempo. I've added white noise. The waveform of the songs are now totally different from the original versions to which an "audio fingerprinting" computer program would be comparing. I could be underestimating the tech built into these audio fingerprinting systems, but lowering all frequencies by ~4%, artificially shortening the entire thing by several seconds which cuts out a lot of wave data), as well as having constant white noise would drastically change the actual digital waveform.

I am left with one ridiculous conclusion, which I really hope is not true: Twitch (or some contracted company) actually pays people to hop around to streams and listen for recognizable music, and flag that stream to be muted. Am I nuts for thinking that there is a group of human beings who wake up every day and do this as their job?

Since my very first broadcast on the p99bumfights channel got flagged for using music that some asshole lawyers don't want you to hear, I'll bet my channel is now on a "short list" of streams to check. If they do employ some kind of mechanical-turk/gold-farming system of virtual slave labor, having a way to isolate channels with the most likely infractions would be helpful.

Has anyone dealt with this issue? Does anybody have any proven tactics to work around this horseshit?
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Why don't the clients of music industry lawyers understand that when they pay these jackasses, they are paying them to PREVENT PEOPLE FROM HEARING THEIR MUSIC. In a really small market setting like a p99 twitch stream that broadcasts to 4 people, you're missing out on what? .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000001 cents of internet music royalties that you would never even be able to claim because you can't cut a penny in half and still use it.
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In conclusion...

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Old 11-01-2014, 10:41 AM
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Oh Port. Your so cute when your mad!
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Old 11-01-2014, 10:42 AM
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http://blog.twitch.tv/2014/08/3136/

Basically they have a system that will scan your archived streams. If it senses any copyright material it will mute it, like Youtube. You can appeal if it was music in the game as ambiance if I recall, but other than that it's tough luck. I have dealt with this on Youtube and it's no dice on the uploader end of things.

Now, if you'll excuse me...
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Old 11-01-2014, 12:09 PM
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I honestly prefer streams that don't play music anyhow. I'd rather hear the game or voice communication of the player(s) than whatever music some guy finds appealing.

Hopefully all this shit will usher in a more enjoyable streaming experience.
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Old 11-01-2014, 12:27 PM
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I honestly prefer streams that don't play music anyhow. I'd rather hear the game or voice communication of the player(s) than whatever music some guy finds appealing.

Hopefully all this shit will usher in a more enjoyable streaming experience.


Yes and no, if they are straight up blasting music that gets annoying but if there is some nice tunes in the background when streamer isn't talking.
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Old 11-01-2014, 12:34 PM
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http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/0...righted-audio/

Interesting. So if you're streaming EQ and have the game's own midi music playing while you go, this will be picked up and the archive will be muted. Kind of a shame that from the players' own choice we have Twitch as the only gaming stream service in town, and we have this shit happening.

Numerous League of Legends players literally stream as their job, making 40k+ a year in estimated pay from views. I wonder how they're dodging this one? I guess they're just telling viewers to listen to their own music until this blows over?
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Old 11-01-2014, 12:49 PM
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Default Please move this to RnF because I'm about to say fuck a lot.

Please move this to RnF because I'm about to say fuck a lot.

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Old 11-01-2014, 12:51 PM
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Since my very first broadcast on the p99bumfights channel got flagged for using music that some asshole lawyers don't want you to hear, I'll bet my channel is now on a "short list" of streams to check. If they do employ some kind of mechanical-turk/gold-farming system of virtual slave labor, having a way to isolate channels with the most likely infractions would be helpful.
That is lame!

How dare them.
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Old 11-01-2014, 12:58 PM
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Almost thought this post was necrod from a couple months ago =P
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Old 11-02-2014, 10:31 AM
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Don't blame the lawyers. Blame their clients and Congress.
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