Elder Beads Getting Nerfed?

[nevilshute]

So, I was wondering when we can expect the Holgresh Elder Beads to be nerfed. Wiki says ~6 months after Velious so that got me snooping around and I fell upon these patchnotes: http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/19992002.php.

After a tedious search on the word 'holgresh' in each of the patchnotes starting from December 6th 2000 through to June 6th 2002 I was unable to find anything pertaining to the Elder Beads.

Is anbody able to enlighten me on this topic?

[Troxx]

It doesn't matter. This has been poop socked enough on this server that there's likely going to be as many beads as players.

[Monty405]

Probably same as CoS where the value will not see an increase for many years down the road as the supply will still be pretty high

[nevilshute]

Great guys, thanks for replying, but see that I'm not asking about speculating on the price, but rather I am looking to learn when we can expect the nerf to happen.

If it is indeed roughly 6 months after Velious release I would expect to see it in the original patch notes but I can't find it.

So either the nerf happens later or those patchnotes I found are incorrect or incomplete. Or it happened without figuring in an patchnotes at all which would be weird I think.

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by nevilshute [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Great guys, thanks for replying, but see that I'm not asking about speculating on the price, but rather I am looking to learn when we can expect the nerf to happen.

If it is indeed roughly 6 months after Velious release I would expect to see it in the original patch notes but I can't find it.

So either the nerf happens later or those patchnotes I found are incorrect or incomplete. Or it happened without figuring in an patchnotes at all which would be weird I think.

There's really never any definites when it comes to these things. The devs do what they can to keep to the timeline, but sometimes things get delayed because the devs are juggling a whole hell of a lot. Kunark was only supposed to last like a year and a half before Velious came out, but it wound up being more like 5. That's just a reality you face when people are being so generous with their own time to put this thing together- sometimes they're going to get busy and things will get pushed back. So, the short answer to your question is, I'm sure they know when they plan to activate the nerf, and I'm sure they're going to try to keep it as close to the actual timeline as possible (6 months from Velious release, I think it's been what, like 3? 4?) but no one really knows for sure.

[Ele]

Tons of changes were never noted in patch messages. Patch notes are also notoriously vague, if not incorrect in some cases. Some changes were done by community announcements on the eq forums or by producer letters. We have to go by contemporaneous posts from class based websites or general eq information sites.

The holgresh bead removal from drop tables date comes from posts saying they didn't drop anymore and we had to narrow it down from that.

It is approximately 6 months in. Search for holgresh in the bug report and Velious beta section for more discussion and evidence of the date.

[nevilshute]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tons of changes were never noted in patch messages. Patch notes are also notoriously vague, if not incorrect in some cases. Some changes were done by community announcements on the eq forums or by producer letters. We have to go by contemporaneous posts from class based websites or general eq information sites.

The holgresh bead removal from drop tables date comes from posts saying they didn't drop anymore and we had to narrow it down from that.

It is approximately 6 months in. Search for holgresh in the bug report and Velious beta section for more discussion and evidence of the date.

Thanks a ton.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Monty405 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Probably same as CoS where the value will not see an increase for many years down the road as the supply will still be pretty high

Try camping them yourself and see what the drop rate is like. I don't think there's going to be a glut of these things like Circlet of Shadow and it'd be closer to what Rubicite and Manastones are in rarity in time, especially since I don't see monks and necros parting with theirs once they get them, because they're that useful.

[Man0warr]

Meh I've lived without them. I have the tinkered ones for when I really need an eye to pull but that's rare.

They are super useful for pulling in Halls of Testing, and also for hammering out of difficult areas.

Maybe I'll get some if they get down to 20k or so, they are already dropping under 40.

[manguard]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hammering out of difficult areas.

Thank you