Do you recall frogloks killing the other non-undead mobs in TT on Live?

[Droog007]

I just spent some time in Trakanon's Teeth this evening, and it brought to mind an issue with this server I began to notice some time ago: there was never a single thing on track other than frogloks and the undead iksar mobs (both skeletons and ghosts). On live there was a wide array of different mobs roaming the zone: trakanasaurs, cockatrices, erollisi mantraps, and sabertooth tigers in addition to the aforementioned frogs and undead lizards.

These other mobs WILL spawn, but they are quickly killed by the frogloks of P99's TT.

Think back - do you remember this zone being an absolute moshpit of mobs fighting each other? Some folks here seem to believe that it was, but the imbalance of population on our server is merely due to the fact that the frogloks are both more numerous and more powerful (shamans with higher level spells than they should have).

From the many, many hours of hunter/forager cycling on Live that I did, I cannot recall this constant raging battle between the frogloks and other creatures. Each mob type was well represented, roaming far and wide and minding their own business.

Please vote how you remember TT on Live. Thanks!

[Pokesan]

Tons more kitty cats and flower jerks in TT on Al'Kabor. Though I do think frogs would KOS other frogs of the wrong, uh, suffix? The canni2 yun powder was difficult because of this

[Droog007]

All I've seen for evidence that there was inter-species fighting in TT on live is a rather cryptic vintage post from some old EQ site or another about some guy trying to shift the balance by killing certain mobs. I think one of two things happened there...
1) the guy was nuts
2) there was a temporary faction issue causing the frogloks to attack certain other mobs, and he was just dabbling with it while the bug was in effect. (this one has my vote)

[Droog007]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tons more kitty cats and flower jerks in TT on Al'Kabor. Though I do think frogs would KOS other frogs of the wrong, uh, suffix? The canni2 yun powder was difficult because of this

I think all frogs on Kunark are cool with each other (FrogloksOfKunark faction). IIRC the yun powder was tough simply because the yuns were just one flavor of the mob and thus tricky to find. And if you were deep in the zone where they tended to spawn, you could get quite a train.

[Pokesan]

Now begins the Classhole Incantation

Pinch of salt to seal the ring
fire to please what posts beneath
a touch of hair from maiden fair
sprig of spruce to make our truce
food and wine for the divines

The face of Pokesan grows pale, his eyes seem to quiver with the power of the spell. He attempts to whisper, 'Da-Dal-Daldaen - I choose you!'

Pokesan collapses in a heap, exhausted from the summoning ritual

Yun shamans, my Lord?

[Droog007]

Sundawg has said this is WAD. I respectfully disagree. The proof he offered was a post on the EQMac forum which I can't seem to dig up - maybe someone with better "deep web" skillz than I could help?

Although, honestly - even if this forum post somehow cannot be refuted, then I'd have to just say "wasn't that way on my server" ... because I KNOW that there were not any significant occurrences of NPC in-fighting during my many hours of playtime in this zone during Kunark and Velious eras.

The fact that the shamans have a higher level spellbook than they should is an entirely different issue. They should only be siccing those pets that they shouldn't have on foolish rangers seeking their fortunes.

[indiscriminate_hater]

do rangers actually do the TT cycles? i can't imagine how long it would take one to get a drop

[Badplayer01]

Shamans get their pet at 34. Aren't most of the frog shaman in TT are at or above that lvl?

[Droog007]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

do rangers actually do the TT cycles? i can't imagine how long it would take one to get a drop

Usually not solo, but yes.

[Droog007]

Originally Posted by Badplayer01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shamans get their pet at 34. Aren't most of the frog shaman in TT are at or above that lvl?

This an entirely different issue, but NPCs in EQ always or almost always had a lower level set of spells than would a PC of the same level - I would guess that they were typically minus one spell rank.

edit: in other words, an NPC shaman would have to be L39 to get the L34 pet spell... that would go along with what I remember. It was easy to spot the highest level shaman frogs in the zone, because they had a blue and white dog running around with them.