George Washington "a Prophet"

[Blitzers]

G. Washington farewell address

I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.

This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.

[jolanar]

Washington could probably have been King if he wanted to. Stepping down from power after 2 turns was his greatest contribution.

[Pokesan]

if only his prescience had allowed him to foresee that slavery is immoral i might give a damn about his opinion

can you imagine that?

[Goliathan]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if only his prescience had allowed him to foresee that slavery is immoral i might give a damn about his opinion

can you imagine that?

Morals change over time. I'm sure some would argue that without the aspect of slavery our country would have had a much harder time growing as quickly as it did. Is it right? No. But it was their world. There were slave owners who felt that the act was repugnant but had little other choice if they wished to survive.

Morals evolve as society does.

[Blitzers]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if only his prescience had allowed him to foresee that slavery is immoral i might give a damn about his opinion

can you imagine that?

Love this argument. The founding fathers are completely discredited because they owned slaves. Yet those who want to discredit the founding fathers are consistently spamming anti Semitic rants throughout the blogosphere including many on these forums...

These people would cry a red river of Left wing blood if you compared them to Hitler, but THEY espouse the same ideology of Hitler. Maybe you should discredit yourselves, hypocrites.

[AzzarTheGod]

*checks calendar* yes about time for me to make another "anti Semitic" post.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if only his prescience had allowed him to foresee that slavery is immoral i might give a damn about his opinion

can you imagine that?

Odd, I don't recall you making a big stink about slavery other than slapping the US over it's slavery long ago. Long ago like when I mention democrat filibuster of the civil rights act and you said some thing like that was a long time ago, right?

Slavery existed long before the US, and the US was one of the first countries to end slavery, and with a lot of blood to do it. And I just find it odd you and lots of people slap down the US in such issues yet never speak of the some 40 million slaves around the world right now. Some of which:

Slavery flows into our homes, offices, and schools through many of the products we buy. Slaves harvest cocoa in West Africa, and it ends up in our chocolate. Slaves make charcoal in Brazil, which is used to run smelters that make steel for our cars. Many food products and raw materials are tainted by slavery—such as tomatoes, tuna, shrimp, cotton, diamonds, iron, sugar, and gold. http://www.freetheslaves.net/about-s...slavery-today/

And I'm not even touching on the modern form of slavery for the US within the prison industry (Which I've mentioned here but not in detail) of which has it's owe labor force (to take jobs away) that puts most slave labor countries to shame not only with low wage but full care and edu which you get to pay for.

And all the illegal aliens flooding into the country, for cheap wages! They are a cheap work force, much akin to slavery. The borders are 100% wide open right now with a catch and release policy. Simply because the libtards want votes, so they advocate a form of slavery in our country, and giving such people an alternative to rising up in their own country to fix the horrible problems there. And that I do big-heartedly wish they would do, as I've walked through the slums beyond the southern border, beyond the party towns constructed for tourists.

Families living in bare ply-wood houses with dirt floors, I've seen these things while doing volunteer work down there, it's horrific. And all the US does is add to the problems by it's border policy, even allowing in dangerous criminals along with them that cause us grievous harm, even murder us.

And so you don't care about Washington's opinion, rlly?!? :/

[AzzarTheGod]

no one gives 2 dicks about west Africa tbh, its 3rd world.

Brazilian slavery is the more relevant modern issue at the moment, as a member of the BRICs block.

BRICs are expected to be civilized to a 1st world standard.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i don't understand the rest of your post.

Well I don't want to dig up the quotes, but you speak of irrelevancy of 50yrs ago but at the same time have an angle on things a century earlier used to demonize the US. And for the rest yes I doubt you understand, as most liberals are plugged into the propaganda machine of the leftists, and it all comes down to the ideology permeating from their plans within plans you have been deceived with.

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no one gives 2 dicks about west Africa tbh, its 3rd world.

Including you? Because some do, but sadly it's just a dead issue by most Americans. Like what they say about Americans not knowing what's actually going on in the world, it's actually pretty true. The real issue is that we don't care (not pointing at you) because we benefit from it. It's true of a lot of issues regarding slavery, illegals, prisons, corruption in general. We like to think we are above it, but in truth we live in it and we contribute to it.

With Africa, I would think this would be an issue here as well, as we have so many people here that are descendants from Africa. But even blacks cry out about this issue, pointing out that most blacks just have no concern for it. Though those same ones that cry out about slavery in Africa today also cry out about the assault on the family structure, so even more so go ignored. And not a race issue, as these things transcend the color of skin, it's everyone's problem. It's an issue of humanity.

Everyone want's to rule the world, make policy and implement change. But honestly, I see no one or no group worthy to do so. And it won't be long until we collapse under our own corruption, where "no one gives 2 dicks about" anything, and we are almost there already.

[Pokesan]

he a stank ass woodtoothed bitch