Game Mechanics: Harmtouch Reset on Death

[MiRo2]

Currently HT resets upon non-exp death on Red99, and should not during our current era. According to patch notes this change should take place with the February 21st 2001 patch.

Originally Posted by http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010221a.html

Due to the recent improvements to "Harmtouch", it is doing much more damage than it would before and unbalances PvP. As such it will now do less damage in PvP (68% of PvE, down from 80%). In addition, Shadowknights on the PvP servers were routinely killing themselves via non-XP losing means and attacking other players with Harmtouch immediately upon respawn. In order to address this situation, Harmtouch is no longer automatically "recharged" by death on the PvP Servers.

Quick test on a level 1 Shadowknight:

[Wed Mar 01 14:07:47 2017] You writhe in the grip of agony. You have taken 11 points of damage.
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:56 2017] You died.
[Wed Mar 01 14:09:15 2017] You writhe in the grip of agony. You have taken 11 points of damage.

[Wed Mar 01 14:07:31 2017] Welcome to EverQuest!
[Wed Mar 01 14:07:31 2017] If you need help, click on the EQ Menu button at the bottom of your screen and select the "Help" option.
[Wed Mar 01 14:07:31 2017] You have entered North Qeynos.
[Wed Mar 01 14:07:31 2017] MESSAGE OF THE DAY: This is a red server. Red things happen.
[Wed Mar 01 14:07:32 2017] This zone does not contain level 1 protection.
[Wed Mar 01 14:07:38 2017] Guard Erabb glowers at you dubiously -- what would you like your tombstone to say?
[Wed Mar 01 14:07:44 2017] Logging to 'eqlog.txt' is now *ON*.
[Wed Mar 01 14:07:47 2017] You writhe in the grip of agony.  You have taken 11 points of damage.
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:43 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:43 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:43 2017] Umvera Dekash begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:43 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:44 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:44 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:44 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:45 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:45 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:45 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:46 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:46 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:46 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:47 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:47 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:47 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:48 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:48 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:48 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:49 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:49 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:49 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:50 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:50 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:50 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:51 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:51 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:51 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:52 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:52 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:52 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:52 2017] You have been knocked unconscious!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:53 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:53 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:53 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:54 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:54 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:54 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:55 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:56 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:56 2017] You are bleeding to death!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:56 2017] Pain and suffering tries to strike YOU, but misses!
[Wed Mar 01 14:08:56 2017] You died.
[Wed Mar 01 14:09:00 2017] Returning to North Qeynos, please wait...
[Wed Mar 01 14:09:01 2017] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
[Wed Mar 01 14:09:12 2017] You have entered North Qeynos.
[Wed Mar 01 14:09:13 2017] This zone does not contain level 1 protection.
[Wed Mar 01 14:09:15 2017] You writhe in the grip of agony.  You have taken 11 points of damage.

[Doctor Jeff]

It's true, it still resets the HT even though there was a patch not long ago that was supposed to take that out.

[Thu Mar 02 04:42:42 2017] You writhe in the grip of agony. You have taken 11 points of damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:59 2017] You died.
[Thu Mar 02 04:44:22 2017] You writhe in the grip of agony. You have taken 11 points

[Thu Mar 02 04:42:42 2017] You writhe in the grip of agony.  You have taken 11 points of damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:42:43 2017] Players on EverQuest:
[Thu Mar 02 04:42:43 2017] ---------------------------
[Thu Mar 02 04:42:43 2017] [1 Shadow Knight] Htknight (Human)
[Thu Mar 02 04:42:43 2017] There is 1 player in North Qeynos.
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:43 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:43 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:43 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:44 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:44 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:44 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:45 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:45 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:45 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:46 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:46 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:46 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:47 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:47 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:47 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:48 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:48 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:48 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:49 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:49 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:49 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:50 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:50 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:50 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:51 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:51 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:51 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:52 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:52 2017] You have been knocked unconscious!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:52 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:52 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:53 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:53 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:54 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:54 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:54 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:55 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:55 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:56 2017] You are bleeding to death!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:57 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:57 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:57 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:59 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:59 2017] Pain and suffering tries to strike YOU, but misses!
[Thu Mar 02 04:43:59 2017] You died.
[Thu Mar 02 04:44:03 2017] Returning to North Qeynos, please wait...
[Thu Mar 02 04:44:03 2017] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
[Thu Mar 02 04:44:16 2017] You have entered North Qeynos.
[Thu Mar 02 04:44:20 2017] This zone does not contain level 1 protection.
[Thu Mar 02 04:44:22 2017] You writhe in the grip of agony.  You have taken 11 points of damage.

[Doctor Jeff]

Same for Lay on Hands

[Thu Mar 02 04:49:48 2017] You feel a healing touch.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:57 2017] You died.
[Thu Mar 02 04:51:21 2017] You feel a healing touch.

[Thu Mar 02 04:49:46 2017] There is 1 player in North Qeynos.
[Thu Mar 02 04:49:48 2017] You feel a healing touch.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:42 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:42 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:42 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:43 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:43 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:43 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:44 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:44 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:44 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:45 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:45 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:45 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:46 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:46 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:46 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:47 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:47 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:47 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:48 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:48 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:49 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:49 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:49 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:50 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:50 2017] Umvera Dekash begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:50 2017] Corporal Lancot begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:50 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:50 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:51 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:51 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:51 2017] You have been knocked unconscious!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:51 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:52 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:52 2017] You are conscious again!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:53 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:53 2017] You have been knocked unconscious!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:53 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:53 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:54 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:54 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:54 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:55 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:55 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:55 2017] YOU are drowning!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:56 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:56 2017] You are bleeding to death!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:57 2017] You were hit by non-melee for 3 damage.
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:57 2017] Pain and suffering tries to strike YOU, but misses!
[Thu Mar 02 04:50:57 2017] You died.
[Thu Mar 02 04:51:01 2017] Returning to North Qeynos, please wait...
[Thu Mar 02 04:51:01 2017] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
[Thu Mar 02 04:51:14 2017] You have entered North Qeynos.
[Thu Mar 02 04:51:17 2017] This zone does not contain level 1 protection.
[Thu Mar 02 04:51:21 2017] You feel a healing touch.

[Doctor Jeff]

https://youtu.be/f9yLbk8fIkk


when it's finished processing it will play at 2x speed but until then you'll have to click around or manually set it to 2x speed


tldw?
harmtouch resets on environmental death

[vouss]

Weird i still can't seem to replicate this myself through falling damage OR drowning, is there something else going on perhaps?

[Andrei Chikatilo]

Originally Posted by vouss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

is there something else going on perhaps?

[Thu Mar 02 04:50:50 2017] Umvera Dekash begins to cast a spell.


?

[Vianna]

Can confirm this is still a thing. Was in City of Mist leveling and an SK rushed our group and used Harmtouch on a necro and then he died. 30 seconds later he comes back naked and uses harmtouch on the necro again thinking he could kill him with bind rushing Harmtouch. We had a cleric in group so he failed over and over.

[Vianna]

Stop trolling bug threads.

[georgie]

Miro2 anon
Vianna anon

Anon Troll posters troll posting

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by georgie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Miro2 anon
Vianna anon

Anon Troll posters troll posting

They're not anon and He wasn't trolling either... he gave an ingame example... You just have 0 clue who they are cuz your FQ levels are 0.