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03-19-2010, 10:11 AM
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Chainmail Patterns
NPCs who should sell Chainmail Patterns are not selling them. Blacksmiths usually need to make ornate chain mail to skill up between banded and fine plate. I checked both NPCs that are supposed to sell them in Neriak (small and large) and as of right now they don't carry it. I suspect this also holds true for the other vendors in other cities.
I also noticed that the Ornate Chain mail recipes are not showing on the recipe search window in the forge. | ||
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#3
03-19-2010, 07:53 PM
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The banded trivial levels are too low for classic. I honestly don't know what they were in classic, but I remember them being higher than 115.
Both the Plate trivials and the banded trivials were lowered when Cultural armor was added in the tail end of luclin. I'm sure some other trivs were lowered too. I don't know how to find out what they are, though. Currently, I'm trying to search old smithing walkthroughs for the 8th shawl hoping I can find one made before the change. The EQ traders forum only allows searches up to 2003, so no luck there. I'm not really good at searching for things, though. I did find this old guide in EQ traders that supports my argument, but doesn't contain the entire trivial list of what the trivial levels actually were. http://www.eqtraders.com/articles/ar...r=040100000000 Additionally, the entire Wu's ensemble isn't classic. Only the gloves were in the game when I started right before Kunark. I do not remember plate being made until much later, when they added the dye components to the game. Plate shouldn't be made at all at this point in time, but it's been available for too long now especially before the sol ro armor when it shouldn't have existed. I think this was also when the skinning knife was added. In classic, you got what skins dropped and couldn't drop them down a grade with the knife. From a post in http://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq/show...ivials-on-Test there is the words: "Once upon a time, You could go all the way to 248 with Fine Steel. There were fewer 250 smiths then than there are now." It may be possible to contact the people who run EQ traders and see if they have any old trivial list archives. Another edit: Dairy spoon was added in luclin. EQ traders has clearly updated/changed site code, so I'm not even sure if the old trivs are still around. I'm going to start pulling trivials from the thread http://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq/show...tes-HERE/page2 if I can It lists the trivs when stuff was updated, it's a long thread, maybe there's a summary. Edit also: http://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq/memb...iami-DenMother created the site, so if anyone knows where the information is, she does. | ||
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Last edited by Scrubby McGee; 03-19-2010 at 08:40 PM..
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03-19-2010, 10:56 PM
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Don't forget Teir'Dal cultural armor! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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03-20-2010, 09:13 AM
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After looking at this list on eqtraders.com I am almost certain that ornate chain is classic. It's also listed here under basic armors.
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Last edited by Webwolf; 03-20-2010 at 09:15 AM..
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#7
03-20-2010, 10:31 AM
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The classic era skillup chart that claimed at the time the highest you could skillup was 168 and that was on banded.
There was no Ornate chain at the time. It was added later. Tradeskills were horribly unfinished on release. | ||
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03-20-2010, 01:45 PM
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The links you posted are from... Created: 2003-06-19 07:36:50 Created: 2003-07-08 11:48:02 If you can find some evidence of its existence prior to 2002, post it up. This was actually a submission by beta testers that it should be removed. | |||
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03-20-2010, 08:26 PM
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I can't find anything on the entire internet that mentions the introduction of Ornate Chain Armor and I think it's probably because it was never introduced as part of an expansion. Also the fact that there is a huge gap in between banded armor and fine plate to me is a sign that there is something wrong. I clearly remember making ornate chain after I was done with banded back in the day. But since I can't find proof of either there is a chance I could be wrong.
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Last edited by Webwolf; 03-20-2010 at 08:36 PM..
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#10
03-21-2010, 02:47 AM
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More interesting facts about this:
The initial entry date on Lucy for all 3 basic armor sets (banded, ornate chain and fine plate) is the same 2002-12-22 which I is probably when Lucy launched so that doesn't help very much. After looking at the Expansion Specific Groupings on this list of recipes it seems that Kunark didn't add any new trade skills recipes and while Velious did add new recipes, pretty much all of them used Velium. I know you pointed out that this list was created in 2003 but it's very difficult to find EQ related websites that date prior to 2002. This is so intriguing... | ||
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Last edited by Webwolf; 03-21-2010 at 02:53 AM..
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