Why is a Lamentation better than a Jade Mace?

[Troy]

Worse ratio and fewer classes can use it, yet it costs twice as much - what gives?

I like swords better than maces from an aesthetics viewpoint, but I see no reason to ever buy a Lammy over a Jade Mace. Is the 35 hp or whatever really that big of a deal?

[YendorLootmonkey]

+6 STR/STA and the difference in delay won't matter when you're hasted (worn & spell) unless there's no min delay cap on P99. Also, willing to bet most melee classes aside from monks neglect their 1HB skill.

[Troy]

Min delay? How could there be a min delay and the Mosscovered Twig still be worth 10k+? Am I missing something here?

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Troy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Min delay? How could there be a min delay and the Mosscovered Twig still be worth 10k+? Am I missing something here?

The moss-covered twig buyers are missing a good DPS parser.

[Troy]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The moss-covered twig buyers are missing a good DPS parser.

Speaking of that - what can I use to watch dps? Would love to make some comparisons.

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by Troy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Speaking of that - what can I use to watch dps? Would love to make some comparisons.

GAMParse is the one I see referenced most often - it only parses melee and spell DPS through the logs, meaning other player's DPS may be off because you can't see their spell damage. It parses everything on your character, though.

[Ravhin]

Another consideration is the rounding post-haste calculation (i.e. http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Haste_Guide).

So Lamentation and Jade Mace have the same hasted delay under some cases (for ex., with FBSS+SLTW).

[KilyenaMage]

It's just another racket for people to overcharge others.

Let's keep in mind that no SK is gonna use a Lammy, so it's basically Warrior / Ranger only.

[Drosis]

Lets not forget looks too. Lammy > jade mace imo.

Also, aren't items status symbols?

[Enderenter]

Lammy was a status symbol on live. Here, it's a Ranger item, or maybe a low-end Warrior item. I sure don't see many tanks using them - and the price reflects that.

Granted, Jade Mace has crashed faster despite being an overall more useful weapon, and I have no idea why.

The bottom line is that both weapons are vastly inferior to what they were on live, partially due to more players having RMoY/BotBDE, but mostly due to how aggro works on here (vs live). You just can't hold aggro without a proc - seemingly much more so on here than on live.