Caster (ench) raid resist gear?

[Goregasmic]

So I'm starting to be close to getting all the EC pieces I want and I'll get some SS MQs too for my "all around" gear set. Eventually I'll be ready to join a guild and raid some. I'll have to come up with a solid resist gear set too.

As an ench will they even let me raid as an ench? Outside C2/haste bitch from what I understand there's very little to do if you can't charm anything worthwhile. Do I really need to be within AE range as a chanter? From what I understand our nukes are mostly resisted due to the stun component and shamans have a better slow.

I never bothered with VOG because I just don't need it, I mostly solo. Do guilds have copies of that or it is critical I shell out the 12k for it?

And then what's the magic resist numbers to aim for unbuffed?

From what I understand the most critical is MR, then FR/CR, then PR/DR? How big of a deal is pr/dr? I noticed on most pieces it is either cr/fr or pr/dr, svALL being pretty rare.

Any other ench raiding advice is welcome.

Thanks.

[PatChapp]

Depends on the engage. If all the shaman die you'll be going in to attempt slows on some mobs.
In fear youll be charming,and even a nearly naked enchanter is fine there since you can outrange the only ae mob in the zone.
Lots buffing,if your going to raids on an enchanter there's no reason not to have vog.
Get gift of pure thought(group c2) If yiu don't have it,saves a lot of time
Resists aren't super important for most stuff that we do,overall.
If you can hit 100+mr unbuffed you'll be okay,at least.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I'm starting to be close to getting all the EC pieces I want and I'll get some SS MQs too for my "all around" gear set. Eventually I'll be ready to join a guild and raid some.

You're doing it wrong. Join the guild first, and then you can get a full suit of SS armor for free (well, for the cost of showing up to a few raids).

Meanwhile, guilds don't care what items you have. Ok, that's not exactly true, some will want you to have raid gear, but no one will require raid gear to join (you'll just be limited in some way until you get raiding gear, eg. you won't be able to bid on the very best items).

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I'm starting to be close to getting all the EC pieces I want and I'll get some SS MQs too for my "all around" gear set. Eventually I'll be ready to join a guild and raid some. I'll have to come up with a solid resist gear set too.

As an ench will they even let me raid as an ench? Outside C2/haste bitch from what I understand there's very little to do if you can't charm anything worthwhile. Do I really need to be within AE range as a chanter? From what I understand our nukes are mostly resisted due to the stun component and shamans have a better slow.

I never bothered with VOG because I just don't need it, I mostly solo. Do guilds have copies of that or it is critical I shell out the 12k for it?

And then what's the magic resist numbers to aim for unbuffed?

From what I understand the most critical is MR, then FR/CR, then PR/DR? How big of a deal is pr/dr? I noticed on most pieces it is either cr/fr or pr/dr, svALL being pretty rare.

Any other ench raiding advice is welcome.

Thanks.

Guilds will have VoG. Its required.

I never bothered with special resist gear. Velious was beat in Kunark gear, you'll be fine.

Charm kills: Anything in Kael (required - best is Korakaz but Troopers are fine too, getting these druid snared helps a ton), PoG (required - Sprites are your charm targets), Fear (required - Irak Altil ideal but the imps are good too they backstab), Hate (required), Dain (maybe).

I used to charm whelps for a few ToV dragons like Eashen and Vyemm.

Since rooted dragons picture room "goaltending" is out, but you can goalie duty Vulak guards if people are still doing the wizard kite in trips room strat. You'd probably do more harm then good being up with the pull team without any experience but you can definitely do goalie work when crawling around on competitive engages.

From what I understand, tash and slow aggro isn't what it used to be, so this is probably outdated: but if you really want to shine on competitive high speed pulls in ToV you need to befriend a wizard and a mage. Be in their group. Get a TL box (of course you're bound outside ToV if you're a raider), every time a flurry drake is being pulled into camp run up to the pullers, tash, click your TL box, re-enter, and get coth'd back up. You can do this on all slowable bosses as well but it sounds like people aren't really that sweaty about it anymore.

Make sure your /yell or /gu slow macro specifies "ENC SLOW" so the shaman know to keep going with theirs.

Can always have a reaper ready to save a tank. Big on stuff like AoW.

Have a DA item / idol ready. AoE tash bomb + DA idol can buy a raid a bit of time on messy train aways. At the very least, bring a DA idol with you at all times and give it to someone competent if they've used theirs already.

I'm sure I'm forgetting some other niche / clutch things as its been 4 or 5 years since I raided but if you can do all this you're miles ahead of the average wall-licker enchanter warmbody.

Save all your DKP for Essence of Nature (FT5) from Tunare, then get other items after that. If your raid guild / force doesn't do Tunare, look for another one because you're wasting your time otherwise. FT5 is your single best piece of gear possible.

[zelld52]

Enchanters dont need any gear on raids. I was in guild with an enchanter who had Braided Cinch Cord at level 60, and was the #1 Enchanter attendee at raids. He was very useful - because ENC primary role on raids is buffing.

now, if you wanna be more of a playmaker on raids, and charm kael giants for AoW, or tash and sieve ToV dragons or Zlandi, etc - resists will help dodge the AEs - but again best enc ive had on raids with me had shit gear at 60

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by zelld52 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Enchanters dont need any gear on raids. I was in guild with an enchanter who had Braided Cinch Cord at level 60, and was the #1 Enchanter attendee at raids. He was very useful - because ENC primary role on raids is buffing.

now, if you wanna be more of a playmaker on raids, and charm kael giants for AoW, or tash and sieve ToV dragons or Zlandi, etc - resists will help dodge the AEs - but again best enc ive had on raids with me had shit gear at 60

oh ya i forgot about sieves too

otherwise you're wrong...if all you do is buff as an enchanter you're a warmbody

can do everything i mentioned and buff np (hence why FT5 is single most important item, period)

[PatChapp]

Lots of charming in kael for sure,but charm pets no longer attack tunare. But enchanters are very important otherwise for that engage.

Bvellos with vog+avatar does like 4 rogues worth of dps

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by PatChapp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but charm pets no longer attack tunare

sheeeeiiiiit

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're doing it wrong. Join the guild first, and then you can get a full suit of SS armor for free (well, for the cost of showing up to a few raids).

Meanwhile, guilds don't care what items you have. Ok, that's not exactly true, some will want you to have raid gear, but no one will require raid gear to join (you'll just be limited in some way until you get raiding gear, eg. you won't be able to bid on the very best items).

Yeah for sure but with my current RL situation I have limited play time so it is usually much easier for me to just farm a couple items for cash and buy a MQ than being on the exact time people raid HOT. So at this point I'm focusing on getting the best gear I can get my hands on so when I join I can just tag along and help with whatever is going on.

Thanks to everyone else who chimed in, very informative.

[kjs86z2]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah for sure but with my current RL situation I have limited play time so it is usually much easier for me to just farm a couple items for cash and buy a MQ than being on the exact time people raid HOT. So at this point I'm focusing on getting the best gear I can get my hands on so when I join I can just tag along and help with whatever is going on.

Thanks to everyone else who chimed in, very informative.

If you can't commit to a scheduled HoT session how are you ever going to raid?