Druid charms working as intended?

MightyTyr · #1 04-28-2010, 09:33 PM

Using the level 24 and 34 druid charm spells I have not had a single charm last over 10-15 seconds in 30 or 40 tries on blue con mobs. 85 unbuffed Charisma, though I can't possibly imagine that would make my charm utterly useless. Just for argument's sake, I tried the level 34 spell on a couple level 10 green mobs and it still only lasted about 30 seconds each time.

My enchanter friend who doesn't have much more charisma than me's charm seems to be working normally - lasting 2-4 minutes on blue con mobs.

Is druid charm, specifically, broken at the moment? Is the issue really my charisma? Although I can't believe that is the problem. Or did druid charm just really suck this much in classic? Can't remember from 10+ years ago.

Zordana · #2 04-28-2010, 10:26 PM

i already had a 20second charm on a blue mob, that was the longest.. tho i remember it being pretty shitty too on live ~kunark time...

Pyrocat · #3 04-28-2010, 10:53 PM

You don't have much cha gear do you?

Druid charm was never that great because druids spec +wis and you need +cha and a MR debuff to get any charm to last.

Omnimorph · #4 04-29-2010, 06:13 AM

Without tash and at least 200+ cha. Charm is useless on enchanters too [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember druid charm being quite decent in velious , particularly in WW. i Don't remember them needing particularly high cha to do that either.

Jify · #5 04-29-2010, 08:12 AM

I remember it being decent in WW.. but not because charm was better. It was because WW is wide open, and the druid could just snare it's pet & the mob. It's like bard charm kiting, but much safer. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Omnimorph · #6 04-29-2010, 08:17 AM

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I remember it being decent in WW.. but not because charm was better. It was because WW is wide open, and the druid could just snare it's pet & the mob. It's like bard charm kiting, but much safer. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, but what i mean is that it was actually a viable way of soloing, the charm described by the OP seems like it is useless (only lasting 30secs). Shouldn't matter where you are [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Alawen Everywhere · #7 04-29-2010, 11:54 AM

I leveled druids on Xev, Sullon Zek, Kane Bayle and Stromm and I play a druid here.

Druid charm works nothing like live. With no charisma gear and no base points spent on charisma, charms would generally last about long enough to beat down another mob to low life, then break charm and kill both mobs with much better mana efficiency than nuking or doting. On Project 1999 in the same situation, charm won't last long enough to even start the attack on another mob.

Druids have other ways to level, but pretending there's no difference from live is rather disingenuous.

Malrubius · #8 04-29-2010, 01:34 PM

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I leveled druids on Xev, Sullon Zek, Kane Bayle and Stromm and I play a druid here.

Druid charm works nothing like live. With no charisma gear and no base points spent on charisma, charms would generally last about long enough to beat down another mob to low life, then break charm and kill both mobs with much better mana efficiency than nuking or doting. On Project 1999 in the same situation, charm won't last long enough to even start the attack on another mob.

Druids have other ways to level, but pretending there's no difference from live is rather disingenuous.

Cha had little to no effect on Druid charm. Same with Necros.

siinge · #9 04-29-2010, 03:16 PM

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Cha had little to no effect on Druid charm. Same with Necros.

it has it does ive posted proof months ago ive already gone over all this charm crap with developers not going over it all over again with noobs that just found out about p99 use the search function

Malrubius · #10 04-29-2010, 03:30 PM

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it has it does ive posted proof months ago ive already gone over all this charm crap with developers not going over it all over again with noobs that just found out about p99 use the search function

Are you saying "it has it does ive posted..." with regards to how it worked in classic? Or, with regards to how it works here?