Quest Issue: It's time to talk about the rogue epic

[Wrench]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...gue+epic+quest

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[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh shiiit:

Allakhazam - Ragebringer

April 2002

I brought up the whole MQ shit before and left feeling salty but accepting.

Kind of like how I did when the "all items should proc at the same right" stuff went down. Felt just as salty/accepting at the time.

But the way true spirit faction works here and the levels that npcs will accept epics and even MQs right now... just... I cannot agree with it.

Because? Honestly, wouldn't people have been selling ragebringers during PoP? I NEVER saw an epic MQ for sale.

Further, my feels were that many more npcs along the way in the epic quests here should be level dependant on accepting things and require the true spirit faction appropriate. Further STILL, true spirit should reset back to a level where the NPCs won't allow you to do it again.

Reason: A bard on RZ destroyed his epic in an oven in a fit of frustration. The ONLY WAY to get it back was to have the GMs restore it. He (Melvyn) even said to me you can't redo the quest again.

Links like the one Dald just dropped give a little more credence back to my previous assertion. We disproved it with live data which I'm usually cool with doing depending on the zone/spell/quest... but with the advent of epic 2.0's etc on live.. I can't help but feel like the original mechanics of the epic quests changed.

That said its just my 2cp and I won't begin any kind of zealous crusade to get the current implementation changed. I'll leave it to Dald [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Wrench [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

daldaen doesnt believe in your search button


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The hate is strong with this one.

The quote I link specifically is not listed among the 7 pages of that thread, and it clearly says that the items are eaten by Stanos. Whereas most of those quotes just say quest NPC won't talk to you here or there (which is how it works on P99). They rarely say "my turnin was eaten".

Having a few quotes about them being eaten at lower levels would be helpful though for such a change.

Though reading through the posts, there is talk about whether there rogue epic is completable on Mac server sub-50... I think I did it on my rogue there I just don't remember the level. I'll have to dig logs when I get home

[paulgiamatti]

After reading through the thread khanable linked and doing some of my own research, it's pretty obvious that if a pre-50 rogue managed to obtain a pouch, Quill, and Dagger in classic-era live and turned them in to Stanos, they would've been eaten. If this is for any reason not how it works on P99, please don't make us link dozens of quotes from around the internet to prove it.

However, multiquesting is still up in the air and we need more solid evidence of someone attempting this with a pre-50 rogue and having their items eaten. It sounds like to me that once a 50+ rogue initiates the quest by turning in any of the three final items, then literally any completion of that initiation by anyone will result in them receiving a Ragebringer. If this was indeed the case on live then it's undoubtedly a loophole that the original EQ developers didn't catch, and by all means would have been fixed if they knew it could be exploited so easily.