the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[unsunghero]

The better approach would be to take some mental health metrics, such as self-esteem, emotional and interpersonal intelligence development, etc, and say we are looking for an increase in these over [x] unit of time

Not a decrease in suicide

But here’s the kinda sick thing. “Suicide” is a provocative term. It grabs attention like most other words can’t. Sort of like “murder” does. And news and politicians want to be provocative. The question is, do they realize who they might be hurting in order to get their clicks, their money, their votes? Do they care?

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

maybe skinner is a goof... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I heard different.

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This is the original.

[Rethalis]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is where it gets controversial. Schizophrenia is a delusion, and it is treated with antipsychotic medication. Gender dysphoria is not a delusion. It is a belief. It CANNOT be corrected with antipsychotics

So approaches we take towards schizophrenia are not going to necessarily work with gender dysphoria

Its still a delusion and a disorder. DSM 5 just affirmed that gender and sex are separate. They are not separate, all this nonsense from the "intellectuals" is just that nonsense.

"The DSM-5 defines gender dysphoria in adolescents and adults as a marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and their assigned gender, lasting at least 6 months, as manifested by at least two of the following:

A marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and primary and/or secondary sex characteristics (or in young adolescents, the anticipated secondary sex characteristics)"

"Gender identity is also different from sexual orientation. Sexual orientation refers to the types of people towards which one is sexually attracted. People who are transgender have the same diversity of sexual orientations as people who are cisgender (people whose sex assigned at birth matches their gender identity)."

[starkind]

The solution is for everyone to stop being dumb fucks and trying to make everyone conform to their worldviews. That won't happen though.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well you don't tell the kids about suicide. Do you?

Conferences about suicide prevention awareness always result in an increase in reports of suicidal thoughts in schools. This creates the chicken or the egg argument, did the conference suggest the outcome or did it encourage the kid already thinking it to come forward? Or was it a little of both

One thing that seems to imply discussion of suicide suggests it is a solution is the fact that a child completing suicide in a school will often set off a chain reaction of other suicides in that school. My state made national news when we had like 7 in a short period of time in a particular school or district

By focusing on the positive you are also preventing the negative. So I would always suggest to instead have that be the focus of the discussion, and only address the negative with the specific individual or pertains to after it has come up

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Rethalis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its still a delusion and a disorder. DSM 5 just affirmed that gender and sex are separate. They are not separate, all this nonsense from the "intellectuals" is just that nonsense.

"The DSM-5 defines gender dysphoria in adolescents and adults as a marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and their assigned gender, lasting at least 6 months, as manifested by at least two of the following:

A marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and primary and/or secondary sex characteristics (or in young adolescents, the anticipated secondary sex characteristics)"

"Gender identity is also different from sexual orientation. Sexual orientation refers to the types of people towards which one is sexually attracted. People who are transgender have the same diversity of sexual orientations as people who are cisgender (people whose sex assigned at birth matches their gender identity)."

It does exist for some people, but [REDACTED BY CPC GENERAL SECRETARY JAYAPAL].

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Rethalis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its still a delusion and a disorder. DSM 5 just affirmed that gender and sex are separate. They are not separate, all this nonsense from the "intellectuals" is just that nonsense.

"The DSM-5 defines gender dysphoria in adolescents and adults as a marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and their assigned gender, lasting at least 6 months, as manifested by at least two of the following:

A marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and primary and/or secondary sex characteristics (or in young adolescents, the anticipated secondary sex characteristics)"

"Gender identity is also different from sexual orientation. Sexual orientation refers to the types of people towards which one is sexually attracted. People who are transgender have the same diversity of sexual orientations as people who are cisgender (people whose sex assigned at birth matches their gender identity)."

Do you see “delusion” there? Incongruence =/= delusion

[Jibartik]

I was sitting there watching a crow attack a bird on a tree. Over and over it swooped down and attacked this bird.

A while ago I watched a crow do the same thing, swooping and swopping at some other bird. Caw caw caw caw constantly caw caw caw caw.

Crows are smart birds. People love them. Caw caw caw. Swoop swoop attack attack.

I realized that these crows suck dick and shit and compared to other birds (of lesser intelligence) they not only look worse, but sound worse, and wont shtup, and attack everything, and display aggression, and are basically the worst example of the avian animal kingdom there is to offer.

Why.... because they're intelligent.

Ive had it with intelligent creatures, there is no value in them. They're just as much a evolved lump of cells as a bald eagle, but they look like shit, sound like shit, wont shut-up, and attack everything for no reason at all.

Eating the apple was the worst thing we could have done.

[Rethalis]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you see “delusion” there? Incongruence =/= delusion

still a delusion. I'm not taking anything from the DSM five seriously when they affirm gender and sex are separate.