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Old 04-07-2022, 11:40 AM
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No idea how this is possible since schools require parental permission to even give a kid a Tylenol for a headache. But apparently they can conduct mad science of delaying puberty by administering powerful medications without parental knowledge, and teaching students weird shit like how to bind their breasts so as to appear like a boy. Again without parental knowledge

Also, isn’t there protections against immediately firing a whistleblower? School is gonna have some lawsuit potential if these claims are true

(Article localized on the Tennesse Star, which also has some interesting information about how clinical attempts to look at other sources or treatments for gender confusion are being blocked as transphobia, which is odd https://tennesseestar.com/2022/03/31...-from-parents/)
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Old 04-07-2022, 11:45 AM
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teaching students weird shit like how to bind their breasts so as to appear like a boy.
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Old 04-07-2022, 11:48 AM
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Yeah but apparently it was the school social worker doing it, in a “social emotional learning” class

I’ve had co-workers who have interned in these programs. They are meant to help students, usually in a group setting, deal with issues related to peers and academics. It’s not technically counseling, since a school SW is not allowed even if credentialed to give students formal counseling. But it also shouldn’t be to encourage gender confusion
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Old 04-07-2022, 11:54 AM
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Yeah but apparently it was the school social worker doing it, in a “social emotional learning” class

I’ve had co-workers who have interned in these programs. They are meant to help students, usually in a group setting, deal with issues related to peers and academics. It’s not technically counseling, since a school SW is not allowed even if credentialed to give students formal counseling. But it also shouldn’t be to encourage gender confusion
Wouldn't that mean they should be after the SSW agency instead then?

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Old 04-07-2022, 11:54 AM
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Gender affirmation is a clinical counseling approach, not a school’s responsibility. There are therapists/counselors out there who practice this. But a parent has to sign a student up for counseling

If the school believes that a student would benefit from some form of gender affirmation counseling, the school SW can recommend that to the parent. If the parent declines, the school SW can try a CPS report for mental health neglect

That’s how that should be handled, not to attempt to practice the counseling at the school without the parent’s knowledge, that’s just a circumvention of their rights. I hope the school gets sued for this
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Old 04-07-2022, 12:00 PM
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Gender affirmation is a clinical counseling approach, not a school’s responsibility. There are therapists/counselors out there who practice this. But a parent has to sign a student up for counseling

If the school believes that a student would benefit from some form of gender affirmation counseling, the school SW can recommend that to the parent. If the parent declines, the school SW can try a CPS report for mental health neglect

That’s how that should be handled, not to attempt to practice the counseling at the school without the parent’s knowledge, that’s just a circumvention of their rights. I hope the school gets sued for this
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Old 04-07-2022, 12:03 PM
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The interesting thing is that schools also always try to get me in my job to talk to kids without parents knowledge and permission

I’ve heard every excuse, the most common one is something like “but their parent is their big stressor, and the student says their parent are emotionally abusive to them. So we would prefer to not involve them”

My response is always “If you feel there is emotional abuse, you can contact CPS, and if they want to investigate and then determine the abuse warrants a severing of parent rights, I can talk to the kid then and coordinate with the CPS caseworker who becomes the new temporary guardian. Until then, I have to notify the parent and get a consent to treat”

The funny thing is, schools are mandated reporters but these SW’s who ask me to talk to students and claim “emotional abuse” as the reason, are still too lazy to file CPS reports. I am not the type to get them in trouble, but I could get them fired for disclosing that they knew of emotional abuse and only reported it to me and not CPS. I am not CPS, they HAVE to report the abuse
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Old 04-07-2022, 12:13 PM
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No idea how this is possible since schools require parental permission to even give a kid a Tylenol for a headache. But apparently they can conduct mad science of delaying puberty by administering powerful medications without parental knowledge, and teaching students weird shit like how to bind their breasts so as to appear like a boy. Again without parental knowledge

Also, isn’t there protections against immediately firing a whistleblower? School is gonna have some lawsuit potential if these claims are true

(Article localized on the Tennesse Star, which also has some interesting information about how clinical attempts to look at other sources or treatments for gender confusion are being blocked as transphobia, which is odd https://tennesseestar.com/2022/03/31...-from-parents/)
Because that is an invasion of privacy. And you don't talk about your students and their activities on Facebook. Non of that information should ever be available to the public or staff except on an absolutely need to know basis. Which isn't very many cases.

We need a purge of this idiocy.

I'm very tired of ignorant parents, staff, government officials, schools. Whatever getting involved in peoples private lives and medical care... yet here we are over 29% of our population needs to be stripped of their freedom. Right to vote. Cars. Guns. Homes. Reproductive organs, access to fast food etc. And it's not the 0.01% of trans ppl or those people that affirm them.

You go and let yourself be distracted by this bullshit while all of your psychotic opioid addicted patients bounce in and out of jail and homelessness recklessly endangering themselves, our country, and our civilization.

Good fucking job mate. Keep pumping up the outrage over people who will probably commit suicide anyway no matter what you do or don't do or say or allow to be said. And in most cases they commit suicide much more honorably and cleanly then your typical human. Especially when they are out of the closet and affirmed whether they want to transition or not by their community.
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Old 04-07-2022, 12:14 PM
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Old 04-07-2022, 12:22 PM
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Because that is an invasion of privacy. And you don't talk about your students and their activities on Facebook. Non of that information should ever be available to the public or staff except on an absolutely need to know basis. Which isn't very many cases.

We need a purge of this idiocy.

I'm very tired of ignorant parents, staff, government officials, schools. Whatever getting involved in peoples private lives and medical care... yet here we are over 29% of our population needs to be stripped of their freedom. Right to vote. Cars. Guns. Homes. Reproductive organs, access to fast food etc. And it's not the 0.01% of trans ppl or those people that affirm them.

You go and let yourself be distracted by this bullshit while all of your psychotic opioid addicted patients bounce in and out of jail and homelessness recklessly endangering themselves, our country, and our civilization.

Good fucking job mate. Keep pumping up the outrage over people who will probably commit suicide anyway no matter what you do or don't do or say or allow to be said. And in most cases they commit suicide much more honorably and cleanly then your typical human. Especially when they are out of the closet and affirmed whether they want to transition or not by their community.
I agree that out’ing your student as LGBT to their parent could be seen as an invasion of their privacy, but it still doesn’t give schools the right to do formal gender affirmation counseling without a parent’s knowledge. All they should do, is just keep the keep the student’s sexuality a secret if the student wishes it, and leave it at that. Not to affirm, not to try some form of medical treatment like puberty blockers, none of that shit. Or like I said, if not affirming the child’s gender is posing a huge risk to their mental health, the school can file a CPS report for mental health neglect

Either CPS can sever custody (which they won’t, not over something like this), or the child can decide at 18 to enroll themselves in counseling or a hormone program if they never felt their parent would
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