the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Rethalis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not taking anything from the DSM five seriously when they affirm gender and sex are separate.

Well you just used it to say it was a delusion. If you don’t want to take it seriously, don’t use it at all

I work in BH, and I do think there is a heavy political influence on the DSM specifically in regards to the trans community. But it was never categorized as a delusion, and never have antipsychotics been a documented effective treatment for it like they are for other diagnosis that involve delusions

Affirmation may very well not be the best approach, but as of yet a lot of other approaches have also failed

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean ben shapiro already kind of settled the debate

[Rethalis]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well you just used it to say it was a delusion. If you don’t want to take it seriously, don’t use it at all

I work in BH, and I do think there is a heavy political influence on the DSM specifically in regards to the trans community. But it was never categorized as a delusion, and never have antipsychotics been a documented effective treatment for it like they are for other diagnosis that involve delusions

Affirmation may very well not be the best approach, but as of yet a lot of other approaches have also failed

My point was more related to the fact that intellectuals in the social science fields have this really strong penchant for overcomplicating everything. Everything is so nuanced, blah blah blah. And then society looks to the experts as the ultimate authority figures.

[Jibartik]

damn the dude can rap too?

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Rethalis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My point was more related to the fact that intellectuals in the social science fields have this really strong penchant for overcomplicating everything. Everything is so nuanced, blah blah blah. And then society looks to the experts as the ultimate authority figures.

In a way overcomplication might be a function of under-complication sometimes though as well. Not necessarily in regards to gender dysphoria, but other mental health issues

We are extremely complex organisms leading very complex lives. Yet people looking to fix their mental health issues still yearn for easy solution, the one thing that will solve their problem. Or the one reason they are the way they are. Life is almost never so simple. Chance are it’s a lot of little things

Our physical health and our mental health are strongly linked, but physical health and nutrition is outside the field of expertise of mental health professionals and vice-versa. This leaves people possibly needing to see different experts who aren’t talking to each other

Then we have the prevelance of dishonesty. In order for mental health treatment to work, it requires a person be completely honest throughout, and have the right approach, which is to better oneself. This is why counselors stress so strongly the idea of confidentiality. But regardless, there is still a huge amount of dishonesty from clients. Either to manipulate the system for some personal desired outcome, or to compensate for their own faults such as being a bad parent, or minimizing their substance abuse in an attempt to save face. If someone isn’t truthful, the entire system breaks down

[unsunghero]

The other big problem with mental health when it comes to medications is the setup

A psychiatrist will diagnose and prescribe based on a single couple hour conversation with a patient. That is such a terrible setup. The psychiatrist has no idea of this person’s baseline behavior. Maybe they have a personality trait to catastrophize everything? Maybe they have extremely low emotional intelligence? A lot of these variables can’t be sus’ed out in a single conversation. In my job I almost always get just one interaction with clients due to my job function, so when co-workers ask me what I think the outcome will be or what is going on I can only answer with extremely limited confidence. Usually followed with “it depends on [x] and [y] and [z] which I suspect may be occurring but can’t confirm in one conversation, or other variables that could be playing a role but didn’t come up, either through intention or chance”

Now in an ideal world the psychiatrist will be following up monthly and also getting case notes from the person’s counselor if they have one. That’s if they have one, and in an ideal world. In many cases, a script for a brain-chemical altering medication is written and then almost no follow up is done. And a person takes it for potentially years

The setup used to be different. Psychiatrists used to do counseling before and simultaneously with meds. Now their time is too valuable I guess. But the separation is very bad

[Kaveh]

Beatings cure everything but schizophrenia

[starkind]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Conferences about suicide prevention awareness always result in an increase in reports of suicidal thoughts in schools. This creates the chicken or the egg argument, did the conference suggest the outcome or did it encourage the kid already thinking it to come forward? Or was it a little of both

One thing that seems to imply discussion of suicide suggests it is a solution is the fact that a child completing suicide in a school will often set off a chain reaction of other suicides in that school. My state made national news when we had like 7 in a short period of time in a particular school or district

By focusing on the positive you are also preventing the negative. So I would always suggest to instead have that be the focus of the discussion, and only address the negative with the specific individual or pertains to after it has come up

Or it's possible that the school and parents and community is really shitty and got even shittier. Especially since rich partisans are cockblocking cool and normal ppl at every turn.

So like... the reasons for those suicides never got addressed. I can tell you that is exactly the case in my hometown school and it's way worse now and DeSantis is a fuckwit.

Had I known then, when I was a kid. What I know now. I would have probably been on the news in a very bad way.

Like if I could magically tell the future. Get all my life experiences in one hit.

The only difference now is that I have already gone through several attempts. Already grown up. And I can handle the shitiness of the world better.

TLDR stop being such shitty selfish fucking pricks and maybe the suicide rate will go down if u even give a real shit. I know u sorta seem to. Granted that won't happen so carry on teach people how to achieve better outcomes. Not just mitigate suicides.

[Gatordash]

Thoughts?

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) is among the most popular senators in the country after seeing his favorability skyrocket back home over the past year, according to an analysis of survey data released Monday.

Morning Consult found that, even as Manchin has faced backlash from progressives nationally, about 57 percent of West Virginia voters viewed him favorably in surveys conducted from January through March. His popularity jumped 17 points—more than any other senator—compared to the same period last year.

The poll found Manchin’s popularity particularly grew among independent and Republican voters in West Virginia, while it dropped among Democrats.

[unsunghero]

Two lowlife migrants trafficking drugs trying to sneak over the border by crossing a river start to drown and a champion soldier dies (is missing, presumed drowned) trying to save them

What a fuckin waste of a good person, trying to save two lowlife cartel pieces of shit. But naw, our border is secure, everyone queues up at asylum stations, and nothing bad ever happens due to illegal crossing attempts