the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Basanos]

Originally Posted by Diziet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please don't encourage them to be engaged in politics if the result is turning the country into something like a shithole state like Florida.

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[Ekco]

>listen man i get it.

well this thread got way to depressing. imma keep drinking and killing Allizewsaur in OOT https://www.twitch.tv/ekcothewizard

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Basanos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

About what, my political orientation? What are the stakes?

I realize that most Americans do not share my view of the political spectrum, and I am often mistaken for a Euro because I talk about it in these terms. If you think 'both parties are fundamentally conservative capitalists and should therefore be destroyed' is unpopular online, try it out sometime in real life

About the role of individual rights and a market economy in creating economic opportunity and surplus

I’d say these things are better than collectivism, which usually ends in human rights abuses worse than “prison industrial complex” or whatever other legitimate gripes you might have. And it doesn’t mean our system isn’t in need of reforming. But damn dude everyone I know who is descended from immigrants came from nothing and will see our kids and grandkids have way easier lives than we did. It can’t be as bad as you claim

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by Basanos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The right thing to do is rarely the easy thing to do.

Are we less terrible than our ancestors? Probably, but we still have a lot of room to improve. Hopefully we don't destroy the Earth's ability to host human life while we figure out how woke we all want to be

Listen man I get it. Before the cancer I was an accelerationist, now my attitude regarding the forthcoming horrors in our future depends on the day. I just don't see how checking out (of politics) fixes a damn thing, though.

So it must be that the future is a series of “forthcoming horrors?”

I disagree

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Diziet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please don't encourage them to be engaged in politics if the result is turning the country into something like a shithole state like Florida.

That reminds me of a thought I had: how much of Florida's budget surplus is due to misappropriating federal pandemic funds?

My state did that graft too but I think we spent it on school lunches. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Basanos]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

About the role of individual rights and a market economy in creating economic opportunity and surplus

I’d say these things are better than collectivism, which usually ends in human rights abuses worse than “prison industrial complex” or whatever other legitimate gripes you might have. And it doesn’t mean our system isn’t in need of reforming. But damn dude everyone I know who is descended from immigrants came from nothing and will see our kids and grandkids have way easier lives than we did. It can’t be as bad as you claim

I realize the Zapatistas and such of this world would roll the hell out of their eyes at me, but I don't live there, I live here.

I'm not under any illusions that capitalism has created plenty for a hell of a lot more people than previous systems did. Pulling people out of poverty is good. I'm not advocating for Maoism or Stalinism, there's no reason we can't just continue to pick the good features of a given system and graft it into our own - just like we have always done.

The Earth is giving us signs that we are being too destructive. There's an ongoing mass extinction caused by the actions of human beings. We can ignore them, but nature doesn't need our attention or approval to do her thing.

Don't let the nature of the internet make me come off as a psycho. I would prefer nobody dies, but the need to keep t-shirts cheap seems to be killing an awful lot of people. Those immigrants 'coming from nothing' - what caused the nothing they fled?

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So it must be that the future is a series of “forthcoming horrors?”

I disagree

Well it's probably not ALL bad and people are generally pretty clever, we'll see what happens. Even if there isn't a forthcoming climate apocalypse of some kind, there's still a hell of a lot of evil stuff done to keep t-shirts cheap. I have a mix of optimism and pessimism about the future. Take what you know about my personal life and shrug accordingly, if you want.

[misterbonkers]

Originally Posted by Diziet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please don't encourage them to be engaged in politics if the result is turning the country into something like a shithole state like Florida.

it might be a shithole but it's -my- shithole [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Basanos]

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[Trexller]

what sorta economic model would Emperor Basanos implement?

seriously

[Topgunben]

Originally Posted by Basanos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Nothing is better in our earthly state than capitalism. Maybe when Jesus comes again he will institute some type of socialism that is true and just in all facets, but for the time being I prefer to not starve like the Venezuelans.