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Old 12-07-2013, 01:22 AM
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Old 12-07-2013, 01:29 AM
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50+ for epics

c'mon do it
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Old 12-07-2013, 01:40 AM
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Some REAL nonclassic features of p99 that hurt the server: spawn variance (regular or extended) and the rules in VP (training wasn't condoned or encouraged by live CSR, it was in fact enforced as griefing/zone disruption and a bannable/suspendable offense) which certain people are pushing to.get applied to ToV/ST in velious.

Training was never tolerated by live CSR staff, yet it goes on here everyday. I can't speak for the validity of epic MQs being classic or not but it is super lame, not as lame as GM sanctioned training between raiding guilds or extended variance. Atleast epic mqs give folks who aren't into raiding.thr.option of acquiring their epics, where as training in VP is simply a griefing tactic used to stall/prevent guilds from engaging dragons.

I mean just the other day I'm in VP tracking a dragon and 4 TMO members spent ovet an.hour glitching their pets around the zone in order to proc wurm AE's on me while I tracked. There was no reason for it nor did it do anything but force me to log out for 5 minutes. Just an example of more non-classic features on p99, but apparently only one group of players on the server are allowed to push for rule changes. This was made plenty evident from the past when other guilds employed TMO's own tactics against them in VP only to be told less than 24 hours later by a GM it wasn't allowed anymore since we were able to avoid TMO trains and pull dragons at free will using their own tactics they'd been using for over 2 years against them.

The main issue seems to be that the people who benefit most from these nonclassic features are the ones who push hardest to keep them on p99. I mean you gotta provide proof of something being nonclassic usually before anything is changed, except there is plenty of evidence that training wasn't allowed ever and variance never existed in the way p99 has implemented; yet those policies remain in place for whatever reason. Too bad too, VP would have been insanely more fun through kunark without dumbass training. I guess the people pushing for it to remain are just bad players who can't engage/kill dragons without training all competition first!

Just really sucks that such minor nonclassic additions ruin p99 for so many of us though! I mean I love it here and appreciate everything the staff has done just wish there was more consistency when it comes to classic vs nonclassic rule&policy implementation. Especially when it continually benefits the same group of players over and over despite said group's blatant history of asshattery, rule breaking, cheating, and abuse towards the server's players. I know ill probably get flamed for how true this post is but whatever just take it how you will; most of the players here know already anyway!
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Old 12-07-2013, 02:16 AM
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Agreed epics need to be 46+

Also make rogue epic require Trak guts.
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Old 12-07-2013, 02:22 AM
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Agreed epics need to be 46+

Also make rogue epic require Trak guts.
And a prismatic scale
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Old 12-07-2013, 03:52 AM
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wipe it clean IMO
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Old 12-07-2013, 04:03 AM
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Some REAL nonclassic features of p99 that hurt the server: spawn variance (regular or extended) and the rules in VP (training wasn't condoned or encouraged by live CSR, it was in fact enforced as griefing/zone disruption and a bannable/suspendable offense) which certain people are pushing to.get applied to ToV/ST in velious.

Training was never tolerated by live CSR staff, yet it goes on here everyday. I can't speak for the validity of epic MQs being classic or not but it is super lame, not as lame as GM sanctioned training between raiding guilds or extended variance. Atleast epic mqs give folks who aren't into raiding.thr.option of acquiring their epics, where as training in VP is simply a griefing tactic used to stall/prevent guilds from engaging dragons.

I mean just the other day I'm in VP tracking a dragon and 4 TMO members spent ovet an.hour glitching their pets around the zone in order to proc wurm AE's on me while I tracked. There was no reason for it nor did it do anything but force me to log out for 5 minutes. Just an example of more non-classic features on p99, but apparently only one group of players on the server are allowed to push for rule changes. This was made plenty evident from the past when other guilds employed TMO's own tactics against them in VP only to be told less than 24 hours later by a GM it wasn't allowed anymore since we were able to avoid TMO trains and pull dragons at free will using their own tactics they'd been using for over 2 years against them.

The main issue seems to be that the people who benefit most from these nonclassic features are the ones who push hardest to keep them on p99. I mean you gotta provide proof of something being nonclassic usually before anything is changed, except there is plenty of evidence that training wasn't allowed ever and variance never existed in the way p99 has implemented; yet those policies remain in place for whatever reason. Too bad too, VP would have been insanely more fun through kunark without dumbass training. I guess the people pushing for it to remain are just bad players who can't engage/kill dragons without training all competition first!

Just really sucks that such minor nonclassic additions ruin p99 for so many of us though! I mean I love it here and appreciate everything the staff has done just wish there was more consistency when it comes to classic vs nonclassic rule&policy implementation. Especially when it continually benefits the same group of players over and over despite said group's blatant history of asshattery, rule breaking, cheating, and abuse towards the server's players. I know ill probably get flamed for how true this post is but whatever just take it how you will; most of the players here know already anyway!
you are a fucktard
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Old 12-07-2013, 04:22 AM
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you are a fucktard


How come?
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Old 12-07-2013, 04:29 AM
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He's probably referring to the book you just wrote on a topic that isn't even relevant to this thread.
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Old 12-07-2013, 04:42 AM
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Its pretty relevant considering the OP concerns an argument over whether or not epic MQs to lowbies is classic. I brought up 2 non-classic features of p99 that have been proven to be non-classic in the past yet still remain part of p99 for whatever reasons. I brought these 2 things up to illustrate that classic or not matters not when it.comes to certain mechanics/policies on this server.



I'm sorry that the average persons attention span is too short to actually read a thread and make certain connections by processing the information. But look at what I say and you will see that I'm just reiterating what has been said in the past, and what is generally known. Tona of people make bank selling epic mqs, obviously they would do what they can to keep the MQs from being nerfed. Sort of in the same way TMO monopolized content for 2 years and then did everything they could to keep it that way.

Guess that makes me a fucktard? Lol oh well, atleast I'm capable of thought.
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