BRAD HAS SPOKEN ABOUT EPIC (no troll)

[Swish]

Originally Posted by BillyCranston [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's bullshit, and it was never abused like it is here

That's the problem with "here" though. People's shortcuts catch on, and before you know it everyone is at it. I'd ban MQ'ing tomorrow if I could... but to ban it would be "not classic" :/

[BillyCranston]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's the problem with "here" though. People's shortcuts catch on, and before you know it everyone is at it. I'd ban MQ'ing tomorrow if I could... but to ban it would be "not classic" :/

Classic or not, things that have been detrimental to the server have been removed from the game, making it a nonclassic change, however it's a change for the better of the server. Classics or not shouldn't be an argument when it comes to people ruining the game for others, scamming people, and exploiting mechanics. Makes no sense to cherry pick such things like ivandyrs hoop for recharging, ands then leave recharging for everything else. Or make a non classic change like that and then leave every other needed change out, because its 'not classic'. The classic argument falls flat considering this isn't 2000.

[teija]

Originally Posted by BillyCranston [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's bullshit, and it was never abused like it is here, just like swarm kiting and a load of other one-off "classic" mechanics that the majority of people choose to use and abuse day in and day out here.

Ummm i remember both Swarm kiting and Low-hp kiting in 2000 on the TZ server, so not sure what ur talking about, some other kind of kite?

[SamwiseRed]

brads will is my command. it will be done, thy kingdom come.

[khanable]

50+ for epics

c'mon do it

[Tasslehofp99]

Some REAL nonclassic features of p99 that hurt the server: spawn variance (regular or extended) and the rules in VP (training wasn't condoned or encouraged by live CSR, it was in fact enforced as griefing/zone disruption and a bannable/suspendable offense) which certain people are pushing to.get applied to ToV/ST in velious.

Training was never tolerated by live CSR staff, yet it goes on here everyday. I can't speak for the validity of epic MQs being classic or not but it is super lame, not as lame as GM sanctioned training between raiding guilds or extended variance. Atleast epic mqs give folks who aren't into raiding.thr.option of acquiring their epics, where as training in VP is simply a griefing tactic used to stall/prevent guilds from engaging dragons.

I mean just the other day I'm in VP tracking a dragon and 4 TMO members spent ovet an.hour glitching their pets around the zone in order to proc wurm AE's on me while I tracked. There was no reason for it nor did it do anything but force me to log out for 5 minutes. Just an example of more non-classic features on p99, but apparently only one group of players on the server are allowed to push for rule changes. This was made plenty evident from the past when other guilds employed TMO's own tactics against them in VP only to be told less than 24 hours later by a GM it wasn't allowed anymore since we were able to avoid TMO trains and pull dragons at free will using their own tactics they'd been using for over 2 years against them.

The main issue seems to be that the people who benefit most from these nonclassic features are the ones who push hardest to keep them on p99. I mean you gotta provide proof of something being nonclassic usually before anything is changed, except there is plenty of evidence that training wasn't allowed ever and variance never existed in the way p99 has implemented; yet those policies remain in place for whatever reason. Too bad too, VP would have been insanely more fun through kunark without dumbass training. I guess the people pushing for it to remain are just bad players who can't engage/kill dragons without training all competition first!

Just really sucks that such minor nonclassic additions ruin p99 for so many of us though! I mean I love it here and appreciate everything the staff has done just wish there was more consistency when it comes to classic vs nonclassic rule&policy implementation. Especially when it continually benefits the same group of players over and over despite said group's blatant history of asshattery, rule breaking, cheating, and abuse towards the server's players. I know ill probably get flamed for how true this post is but whatever just take it how you will; most of the players here know already anyway!

[Tiggles]

Agreed epics need to be 46+

Also make rogue epic require Trak guts.

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed epics need to be 46+

Also make rogue epic require Trak guts.

And a prismatic scale

[Glitterati]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some REAL nonclassic features of p99 that hurt the server: spawn variance (regular or extended) and the rules in VP (training wasn't condoned or encouraged by live CSR, it was in fact enforced as griefing/zone disruption and a bannable/suspendable offense) which certain people are pushing to.get applied to ToV/ST in velious.

Training was never tolerated by live CSR staff, yet it goes on here everyday. I can't speak for the validity of epic MQs being classic or not but it is super lame, not as lame as GM sanctioned training between raiding guilds or extended variance. Atleast epic mqs give folks who aren't into raiding.thr.option of acquiring their epics, where as training in VP is simply a griefing tactic used to stall/prevent guilds from engaging dragons.

I mean just the other day I'm in VP tracking a dragon and 4 TMO members spent ovet an.hour glitching their pets around the zone in order to proc wurm AE's on me while I tracked. There was no reason for it nor did it do anything but force me to log out for 5 minutes. Just an example of more non-classic features on p99, but apparently only one group of players on the server are allowed to push for rule changes. This was made plenty evident from the past when other guilds employed TMO's own tactics against them in VP only to be told less than 24 hours later by a GM it wasn't allowed anymore since we were able to avoid TMO trains and pull dragons at free will using their own tactics they'd been using for over 2 years against them.

The main issue seems to be that the people who benefit most from these nonclassic features are the ones who push hardest to keep them on p99. I mean you gotta provide proof of something being nonclassic usually before anything is changed, except there is plenty of evidence that training wasn't allowed ever and variance never existed in the way p99 has implemented; yet those policies remain in place for whatever reason. Too bad too, VP would have been insanely more fun through kunark without dumbass training. I guess the people pushing for it to remain are just bad players who can't engage/kill dragons without training all competition first!

Just really sucks that such minor nonclassic additions ruin p99 for so many of us though! I mean I love it here and appreciate everything the staff has done just wish there was more consistency when it comes to classic vs nonclassic rule&policy implementation. Especially when it continually benefits the same group of players over and over despite said group's blatant history of asshattery, rule breaking, cheating, and abuse towards the server's players. I know ill probably get flamed for how true this post is but whatever just take it how you will; most of the players here know already anyway!

you are a fucktard

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Glitterati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you are a fucktard

How come?