Game Mechanics: deathtouch not instant

[DoucLangur]

Severe bug: Deathtouch mobs do not instantly kill whoever gets on their aggro list. I have seen Keeper of Souls melee the first to engage almost to death before finally deathtouching him.

Just now, I pulled a Spiroc Vanquisher with divine aura, and I ran for 12 seconds, thinking I was safe because I didn't get deathtouched. Just as I reached camp, the spiroc lord deathtouched me - he had CHASED me all the way before - and wiped our raid.

Please fix this, that is very game breaking - I assume it is the same bug for ALL deathtouch mobs...

[Ele]

Cazic's DTs are bugged and severely delayed since the patch. It is almost like they queue up at some points and shoot off rapid fire. Draco can also be aggro'd and not cause CT to DT the aggro'er.

[Bantam 1]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cazic's DTs are bugged and severely delayed since the patch. It is almost like they queue up at some points and shoot off rapid fire. Draco can also be aggro'd and not cause CT to DT the aggro'er.

Lord Cazic... doing his godly works.

[Lostprophets]

Not sure if relevant here, but this might just be bad luck, but I've never seen this scenario happen either...

On repop day, I Tagged Draco to bring him into camp he did his FTE thing "dracoliche engages Kobrakai!" or whateves, not one second later, I got Death Touched.

This also happened immediately after Greame aggro'd draco too. (Greame aggro'd draco by mistake, got death touched instantly)

I thought it was someone else randomly in the zone when the death touch cycle starts, or am i mistaken? or maybe this is an addition to the bug?

I mean, I've pulled him a small handful of times in the past...seen DT Cycle start, doesn't DT the puller...it's someone else randomly in the zone.

[arsenalpow]

CT encounter is still pretty fucked, unless 4 DTs instantly upon engage is par for the course

[Sat Jul 27 00:30:00 2013] Cazic Thule engages Jutebox!
[Sat Jul 27 00:30:00 2013] Cazic Thule says 'JUTEBOX'
[Sat Jul 27 00:30:00 2013] Jutebox's song ends abruptly.
[Sat Jul 27 00:30:00 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'Denizens of Fear, your master commands you to come forth to his aid!!
[Sat Jul 27 00:30:00 2013] Cazic Thule engages Sadad!
[Sat Jul 27 00:30:00 2013] Syndar begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Jul 27 00:30:00 2013] Cazic Thule says 'SADAD'
[Sat Jul 27 00:30:00 2013] Sadad has been slain by Cazic Thule!
[Sat Jul 27 00:30:00 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'Denizens of Fear, your master commands you to come forth to his aid!!
[Sat Jul 27 00:30:00 2013] Cazic Thule engages Cassimir!
[Sat Jul 27 00:30:00 2013] Cazic Thule says 'CASSIMIR'
[Sat Jul 27 00:30:00 2013] Cassimir has been slain by Cazic Thule!
[Sat Jul 27 00:30:01 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'Denizens of Fear, your master commands you to come forth to his aid!!
[Sat Jul 27 00:30:06 2013] Cazic Thule shouts 'CHEST'

so 4 DTs in 6 seconds...

[Snackies]

Originally Posted by Lostprophets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure if relevant here, but this might just be bad luck, but I've never seen this scenario happen either...

On repop day, I Tagged Draco to bring him into camp he did his FTE thing "dracoliche engages Kobrakai!" or whateves, not one second later, I got Death Touched.

This also happened immediately after Greame aggro'd draco too. (Greame aggro'd draco by mistake, got death touched instantly)

I thought it was someone else randomly in the zone when the death touch cycle starts, or am i mistaken? or maybe this is an addition to the bug?

I mean, I've pulled him a small handful of times in the past...seen DT Cycle start, doesn't DT the puller...it's someone else randomly in the zone.

The current behavior with CT up the golems and draco will insta-DT the person that initially engages them which starts the cycle.

Can't say if that's classic or not but confirmed that's been happening for at least a year.

[p-niner]

Oh I wonder if anyone has reported this draco ct dt script bug

[Ele]

Originally Posted by p-niner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh I wonder if anyone has reported this draco ct dt script bug

Yeah, right after Nilbog asked for feedback regarding FTE in the patch.

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

These were introduced in the patch earlier today.

Any particular issues?
Any npcs which should have further distance?
Do you like them? Dislike them?

Easy changes; let me know.

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is it possible that the FTE shouts on dracoliche and CT could have messed with the zone wide DT list when aggroing draco/golem/ct? There were some issues where the DT cycle seemed to have long pauses in it or would reset.

[Handull]

i'm not sure how DTs should work, but I know how they do work on p99.

on p99 DTs behave like a spell. they require line of sight and they require a mob to not be casting a spell. so for Master Yael who casts and has a 30 second delay DT timer, if he starts to cast a spell at 29 seconds until DT, he cannot do his next DT until that spell finishes casting. requiring line of sight, you can agro something like spiroc lord and duck behind a hill and he can't DT you until he goes over the hill. I think there is likely also a max range on DT, though I haven't explicitly tested it. along the lines of DT behaving like a spell, it seems that while a mob usually DTs on a given 30 or 45 minute cycle, there is some variance to that, in some cases caused by casting, but in other cases causes by either random delay, as in normal spell casting, or maybe by things like melee/spell stun.

and like the OP said, sometimes the DT is nearly instant, other times you can have a sizeable delay, even if you remain in line of sight at all times.

[Nirgon]

Please let me know the next time CT is up on the red server and a raid is planned.

I am more than happy to enlist the services of one Mr. Huff Paint to confirm how this is currently working.