the GAINS thread

[Patriam1066]

12 sets of deadlifts yesterday. Today my left knee kinda hurts. I love deadlifts but my form is far from perfect and this seems to always happen. Should I invest in a trainer and make sure I’m 100% confident in my form? I’m guessing knee pain is a sign of a serious issue with my form that could actually cause a serious injury as I go up in weight. Right now I don’t push past 305-315, and most of my sets are 10 reps of 225. Still, this shit is frustrating

[skarlorn]

Back before I had belly surgery, I loved to do deadlifts. I wanted to make sure that my form was right so I wouldn't hurt myself. I signed up to get a PT to check my forum. He jerked me around a bunch of other exercises and essentially refused to help me with my deadlifts. i think this is pretty normal for most entry-level trainers at franchise gyms.

I share this anecdote with you so you can choose a better trainer. Trainers make their money getting you to work with them for a year instead of actually helping you with one or two sessions. So you may be better of paying top dollar for a great trainer. Or, find a super strong deadlifter and convince him to help you.

hope this helpa

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

12 sets of deadlifts yesterday. Today my left knee kinda hurts. I love deadlifts but my form is far from perfect and this seems to always happen. Should I invest in a trainer and make sure I’m 100% confident in my form? I’m guessing knee pain is a sign of a serious issue with my form that could actually cause a serious injury as I go up in weight. Right now I don’t push past 305-315, and most of my sets are 10 reps of 225. Still, this shit is frustrating

I'm thinking of going to a powerlifting camp or seeing a trainer. I seem to always get hurt because of bad mechanics.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by skarlorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Back before I had belly surgery, I loved to do deadlifts. I wanted to make sure that my form was right so I wouldn't hurt myself. I signed up to get a PT to check my forum. He jerked me around a bunch of other exercises and essentially refused to help me with my deadlifts. i think this is pretty normal for most entry-level trainers at franchise gyms.

I share this anecdote with you so you can choose a better trainer. Trainers make their money getting you to work with them for a year instead of actually helping you with one or two sessions. So you may be better of paying top dollar for a great trainer. Or, find a super strong deadlifter and convince him to help you.

hope this helpa

I have similar experience.

I specifically wanted to improve core resilience against injury and he included all sorts of cardio and shit.

Was forcing lock gates and shifting awkward loads for a seasonal job on the waterways. The gym was good once I ditched the trainer an instead formed a crew.

[JurisDictum]

PTs are PTs because they didn't know what else to do with their lives. Most of them anyway. They are usually just bros that like working out a lot.

They tend to train you in the way they might have trained themselves. Despite that your goals, and style preferences might be a lot different. Many of them are just plain dumb.

But you find good ones (probably older ones with degrees). You can probably just go into physical therapy complaining about knee pain -- and they might help with that specific issue (probably putting to much weight on quads and not the posterior chain) better than a personal trainer.

[Mead]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

12 sets of deadlifts yesterday. Today my left knee kinda hurts. I love deadlifts but my form is far from perfect and this seems to always happen. Should I invest in a trainer and make sure I’m 100% confident in my form? I’m guessing knee pain is a sign of a serious issue with my form that could actually cause a serious injury as I go up in weight. Right now I don’t push past 305-315, and most of my sets are 10 reps of 225. Still, this shit is frustrating

Just research the shit out of it and drop weight until your form is perfect. You can really fuck yourself up if you're doing it wrong. This is actually something I would consult with a crossfit trainer about if you don't want to try and fix it yourself. Those guys will get your deadlift form perfect.

As far as your current injury, I would definitely keep off of it, ice it, and maybe take some ibuprofen for like a week or two and see how it feels. You might have torn something that just needs some time to recover. If it still persists afterwards maybe get it checked out.

[Mead]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PTs are PTs because they didn't know what else to do with their lives. Most of them anyway. They are usually just bros that like working out a lot.

They tend to train you in the way they might have trained themselves. Despite that your goals, and style preferences might be a lot different. Many of them are just plain dumb.

But you find good ones (probably older ones with degrees). You can probably just go into physical therapy complaining about knee pain -- and they might help with that specific issue (probably putting to much weight on quads and not the posterior chain) better than a personal trainer.

Almost every encounter I have with a personal trainer I'm just like stop talking dude. They're like the gnc sales persons of the gym. Sounds like they know what they're talking about to people who don't know any better.

Physical therapy is definitely another route to go for the knee pain if it doesn't get any better resting it. They can give you some good tips on how to prevent injury as well. If it wasn't for my physical therapy I probably wouldn't be going hard as I am in the gym yet.

[LulzSect©]

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[Patriam1066]

Thanks for the advice guys. I’m probably gonna just lower the weight for a while.

And the knee isnt seriously fucked up or anything... I ran 3 miles with my dogs today. It’s just a slight twinge that’s annoying and tells me my mechanics were off

[Vheran]

Definitely a good idea. I already have back problems and I want to strengthen it to prevent them in the future, so I cut my weights down significantly because it's been so long I know I would look and feel awful try to to get right back into it like I never left.. It doesn't dishearten me because with 5x5 or 5/3/1, for a not expert lifter, I will very steadily get back to and beyond.

Did squat (every workout, squats), bench press, and barbell rows. Proper barbell rows are so demanding, I feel it everywhere

Edit: wussed out on the progress selfie. Elf healthy tho