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Old 11-20-2017, 04:07 PM
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Good find on the vindi video! I do admit it looks like push there is fairly heavy with him creeping along the wall.

I do disagree with you on the Zlandicar video, the entire raid doesn't get feared although some do, and you can see the video maker standing directly under Zland and casting a spell and Zland is not moving despite melee being in front.

It looks like it takes from 0:44 to 1:17 or so to push him up the ledge (to where you see his graphic lift up). That is a proverbial lifetime in P99 terms to move that short distance.

I rewatched the Gore video at like 1:22 I see her foot 'teleport' once is all. This could easily have been a knockback spell as well, and is not what I would consider a gradual push. On P99 even slowed you can push Gore a far greater distance.

And I wouldn't discount the Maestro / Inny / CT videos, even if some folks are spread a bit more around, the majority are facing towards a general direction with little push in that time frame. On P99 you are switching push on white wurms in HoT at least 2-3 times.

The vindi video possibly could validate some of the push on P99, but I think it a mistake to disregard everything else based on that (even the unquantifiable comments). I did see a post on safehouse that specifically was explaining push much how we understand it on P99, and a reply mentioned that proximity of your melee attack caused increased push (was just a theory). Perhaps that is what we are seeing in the vindi video?

Would love to see more videos if anyone wants to dig them up! Even grouping or jugg farming or something, anything with some extended melee exchanges.
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