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Originally Posted by loramin
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"best starting stats for a barb shaman" ... to do what?
Did you just completely skip over Danth's post? And as for the rest, I never said Loramin had perfect gear; I said he was fairly representative (if not a bit on the high side) of a non-raid 60 shaman ... and he is. So I don't get the long tirade on what I could do with my gear.
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I don't need to address Danth, we're pretty much on the same page. Our reasons for why we agree on the 105wis 105 sta starting stats are very similar (better split for gear selections, I'm taking it a step further and showing how doing more +Wis at char creation let's you use more bulky +sta/HP combos on gear later, something you also keep noting, hps > Mana. While also not hamstringing yourself to be low wisdom later). So again, I don't understand that response from you. Please re-read our reasons why.
I didn't go on a tirade. I gave clear examples of suboptimal gear choices that you made that you're referencing for why you think +sta is better than +Wis at char creation. I also gave solutions that help fix the +sta to 205 unbuffed issue by illustrating how it's much easier to get +sta+HP in bulk on non-raid gear than +wis+HP. This was all helpful information for the OP, nothing about it was a triade.
You've listed no concrete examples of why +25 sta +5 wis is superior to +25 Wis and +5 sta other than referencing your own toon who has too many suboptimal gear choices to be a good reference, and saying HP > Mana so +sta is better (which isn't true if you can get to 205 without putting 20 extra starting stats in it). You'll never cap wisdom self buffed on a non-high end raid geared shaman by contrast, unless you're sacrificing a lot of hps.
In the end this is all min/max and you may not notice it in every day play. But for sake of fleshing out the best possible stat allocation in this case, +25 wis +5 sta will win out. You can prioritize sta/hps on gear and get extra mana from the extra starting wisdom on top of it.