Paris attack thread

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

here let me translate that for you.

holy shit i like didnt have to change ANY words to make it sound exactly like something a moderate Muslim in the middle east would say.

the only thing I hcanged was goat fucking to bombing... and it applies to america just as well.. Gross.

Dont you see how evil begets evil and nobody who hates Muslim is any better than a moderate Muslim that hates westerners?

I like my original post better, but thx for your efforts. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I can't help but wonder, though... why do you hate your own country and countrymen so much? It's not just this thread, btw. You've been known to say some pretty nasty shit about America in general. Granted, there are lots of things about us that deserve criticism and needs to change. We aren't perfect, but our system of government vs. Sharia Law?... no fucking contest.

I'd really like to understand how you ended up becoming so sympathetic to those that would happily decapitate us all with butter knives if they got the chance.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why do you hate your own country and countrymen so much? It's not just this thread, btw. You've been known to say some pretty nasty shit about America in general. Granted, there are lots of things about us that deserve criticism and needs to change. We aren't perfect, but our system of government vs. Sharia Law?... no fucking contest.

I'd really like to understand how you ended up becoming so sympathetic to those that would happily decapitate us all with butter knives if they got the chance.

I dont hate america at all, I love america very much. That's why I'm so vocal about this stuff.

I hate when people say someone is evil for doing one thing, while they themselves are doing the same thing. I hate that this very thread is full of blind rage against Muslims. violent hate towards a faceless monster that this type of bigotry creates.

You posted a quote that could SO EASILY be the definition for why any normal moderate working class non ji-hadist Muslims would hate you or me.

I dont think wars on 'things' help anybody. Religion is a 'thing' you cant declare war on it, you cant hate it away. you just cant.

Nobody here is really asking themselves, 'why is this happening?' they're just reactiing instinctively without really thinking about it.

So no progress can be made.

I also hate bigotry and people that use it as a way to attack and harm other people.

I am disappointed in our country for a lot of reasons, firstly we should know better. We should KNOW that investing in Americans is the right thing to do, attacking people for not having a job or not being a job creator isnt right. Im disappointed in conservative ideals because they're designed to use bigotry and instinctive hate to promote ideals that make bad individuals more money.

So what I hate is our nations economic policy. But thats just something that bad people have tricked us into thinking is "american" and I hate people that trick other people into doing things even more.

Sidelle I love america, I just hate what bigotry ignorance and hate can do to it.

This is just like when quentin tarantino said we should call a murderer a murderer and call a murder a murder... people who are more conservitive just changed what he said into saying, 'all cops are murderers'

I think the war on terror has done FAR MORE HARM than good. It has created ISIS it has made them cut peoples heads off. And if you want to do it again? Im not going to let you.

[Big_Japan]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dont hate america at all, I love america very much. That's why I'm so vocal about this stuff.

I hate when people say someone is evil for doing one thing, while they themselves are doing the same thing. I hate that this very thread is full of blind rage against Muslims. violent hate towards a faceless monster that this type of bigotry creates.

You posted a quote that could SO EASILY be the definition for why any normal moderate working class non ji-hadist Muslims would hate you or me.

I dont think wars on 'things' help anybody. Religion is a 'thing' you cant declare war on it, you cant hate it away. you just cant.

Nobody here is really asking themselves, 'why is this happening?' they're just reactiing instinctively without really thinking about it.

So no progress can be made.

I also hate bigotry and people that use it as a way to attack and harm other people.

I am disappointed in our country for a lot of reasons, firstly we should know better. We should KNOW that investing in Americans is the right thing to do, attacking people for not having a job or not being a job creator isnt right. Im disappointed in conservative ideals because they're designed to use bigotry and instinctive hate to promote ideals that make bad individuals more money.

So what I hate is our nations economic policy. But thats just something that bad people have tricked us into thinking is "american" and I hate people that trick other people into doing things even more.

Sidelle I love america, I just hate what bigotry ignorance and hate can do to it.

This is just like when quentin tarantino said we should call a murderer a murderer and call a murder a murder... people who are more conservitive just changed what he said into saying, 'all cops are murderers'

I think the war on terror has done FAR MORE HARM than good. It has created ISIS it has made them cut peoples heads off. And if you want to do it again? Im not going to let you.

lets be real** if u took the time to read this, u got problems

[iruinedyourday]

drugs

[Kyff]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The necessities for winning this type of war will be Manhattan Project-tier budgets for big data analysis, mass surveillance, and domestic propaganda research initiatives and the concentration of the omniscient power of God in the hands of those who created this "problem" in the first place.

Where did you spend the last years? The NSA has these kind of things and still failed to prevent a single attack. I wonder why despite these failures people still think more surveillance would bring better results. It might be a better idea to dissolve this entity and use the free budget to alleviate the lives of arabs.

[Big_Japan]

Originally Posted by Kyff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where did you spend the last years? The NSA has these kind of things and still failed to prevent a single attack. I wonder why despite these failures people still think more surveillance would bring better results. It might be a better idea to dissolve this entity and use the free budget to alleviate the lives of arabs.

I don't think you grasp the actual point of surveillance on a global scale, let alone what I'm trying to say. It has little to do with individuals, and everything to do with scientifically refining the media apparatus to get the optimal outcome on the population-scale for those granted access to the data. All the NSA really has at present is vast stores of information; big data science hasn't moved beyond its infancy yet.

"Trying to prevent attacks" is an exceedingly thin justification for the real purpose of the Utah data center. In reality, the only serious mechanism for mass surveillance to improve security is by ensuring greater compliance and contentment with the prevailing social order through the scientific refinement of the psyops and propaganda techniques used to generate that image of society.

As Zuckerberg has said "give me a large enough dataset and I can predict the future". But even this falls short of describing what this power means for the state, who controls enough of the info distribution apparatus that they can use that data to predict and control the future. It's the power of God, granted to sick megalomaniacs, as predicted in pretty much every book of eschatology since humans started thinking about the inevitable outcome of advancing civilization and technology. Our preachers and priests talked about this shit at one time; maybe that's why we've been conditioned to laugh at everything they say, while simultaneously burying ourselves in total ignorance to all but the most superficial aspects of science and naturalism.

Nazis and Soviets had propaganda artists, perhaps of great talent but nonetheless limited to the realm of artistry. Mass psychology and propaganda will become the most revolutionary sciences in human history once we unlock the secrets hidden in the huge troves of data we are accumulating now year-by-year. "Big data" is the future. We're really overdue for a modern 1984/BNW that takes looming technology into account so the average unimaginative pleb can fathom the thousand-foot demon standing over us now. It's the greatest revolution in relations between ruler and serf ever, by far. I can't imagine another technology having larger implications for society until nanomachines and programmable environments.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Kyff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where did you spend the last years? The NSA has these kind of things and still failed to prevent a single attack. I wonder why despite these failures people still think more surveillance would bring better results. It might be a better idea to dissolve this entity and use the free budget to alleviate the lives of arabs.

Who ever said dark elves were evil

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think you grasp the actual point of surveillance on a global scale, let alone what I'm trying to say. It has little to do with individuals, and everything to do with scientifically refining the media apparatus to get the optimal outcome on the population-scale for those granted access to the data. All the NSA really has at present is vast stores of information; big data science hasn't moved beyond its infancy yet.

"Trying to prevent attacks" is an exceedingly thin justification for the real purpose of the Utah data center. In reality, the only serious mechanism for mass surveillance to improve security is by ensuring greater compliance and contentment with the prevailing social order through the scientific refinement of the psyops and propaganda techniques used to generate that image of society.

As Zuckerberg has said "give me a large enough dataset and I can predict the future". But even this falls short of describing what this power means for the state, who controls enough of the info distribution apparatus that they can use that data to predict and control the future. It's the power of God, granted to sick megalomaniacs, as predicted in pretty much every book of eschatology since humans started thinking about the inevitable outcome of advancing civilization and technology. Our preachers and priests talked about this shit at one time; maybe that's why we've been conditioned to laugh at everything they say, while simultaneously burying ourselves in total ignorance to all but the most superficial aspects of science and naturalism.

Nazis and Soviets had propaganda artists, perhaps of great talent but nonetheless limited to the realm of artistry. Mass psychology and propaganda will become the most revolutionary sciences in human history once we unlock the secrets hidden in the huge troves of data we are accumulating now year-by-year. "Big data" is the future. We're really overdue for a modern 1984/BNW that takes looming technology into account so the average unimaginative pleb can fathom the thousand-foot demon standing over us now. It's the greatest revolution in relations between ruler and serf ever, by far. I can't imagine another technology having larger implications for society until nanomachines and programmable environments.

5 Star post. The P99 forum is unworthy of such insight, but I am sure you already knew that.

If you are anything like me, then exercising your own mind comes first, the post itself is secondary.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

when you cant win an argument cry racist?

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wish the people that hated me weren't racist shit heads so i could feel bad about it.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Kyff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where did you spend the last years? The NSA has these kind of things and still failed to prevent a single attack. I wonder why despite these failures people still think more surveillance would bring better results. It might be a better idea to dissolve this entity and use the free budget to alleviate the lives of arabs.

Algorithms for analyzing data are constantly being developed and improved. We are a ways off yet from having the capabilities BigJap was describing. If we end up in an actual fight for our survival, and not just a series of small localized conflicts, then you'll see the fledgling multi-billion dollar AI industry expanded greatly by government funding.