Paris attack thread

[sOurDieSel]

Islam is incompatible with Western Civilization. These people aren't refugees. They just want all the free givezmedat. They travel through numerous 'safe' countries to get to places like Germany, Sweden and the UK where they get a lot more of the free givezmedat. There are plenty of wealthy Muslim countries are the same distance or closer in some instances yet they CHOOSE to go to European countries. Why isn't the UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, etc.. doing their part to take in 'refugees'?

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/sau...ople-refugees/

Why doesn't Saudi Arabia fill up some of those tents and help their Muslim brothers out?

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This makes me wonder if it was a false flag attack and/or planted later. What kind of retard suicide bomber brings their passport just to make a point? Not to mention, how did they ensure it would survive the explosion unscathed?

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/paris-attac...e-fake-1528823

The Syrian passport recovered from near one of the Paris attackers may be fake, a US intelligence official told CBS news. The document did not contain the correct numbers for a legitimate Syrian passport and the picture did not match the name, said the official.

etc

[Kyff]

Originally Posted by Big_Japan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think you grasp the actual point of surveillance on a global scale, let alone what I'm trying to say. It has little to do with individuals, and everything to do with scientifically refining the media apparatus to get the optimal outcome on the population-scale for those granted access to the data. All the NSA really has at present is vast stores of information; big data science hasn't moved beyond its infancy yet.

"Trying to prevent attacks" is an exceedingly thin justification for the real purpose of the Utah data center. In reality, the only serious mechanism for mass surveillance to improve security is by ensuring greater compliance and contentment with the prevailing social order through the scientific refinement of the psyops and propaganda techniques used to generate that image of society.

As Zuckerberg has said "give me a large enough dataset and I can predict the future". But even this falls short of describing what this power means for the state, who controls enough of the info distribution apparatus that they can use that data to predict and control the future. It's the power of God, granted to sick megalomaniacs, as predicted in pretty much every book of eschatology since humans started thinking about the inevitable outcome of advancing civilization and technology. Our preachers and priests talked about this shit at one time; maybe that's why we've been conditioned to laugh at everything they say, while simultaneously burying ourselves in total ignorance to all but the most superficial aspects of science and naturalism.

Nazis and Soviets had propaganda artists, perhaps of great talent but nonetheless limited to the realm of artistry. Mass psychology and propaganda will become the most revolutionary sciences in human history once we unlock the secrets hidden in the huge troves of data we are accumulating now year-by-year. "Big data" is the future. We're really overdue for a modern 1984/BNW that takes looming technology into account so the average unimaginative pleb can fathom the thousand-foot demon standing over us now. It's the greatest revolution in relations between ruler and serf ever, by far. I can't imagine another technology having larger implications for society until nanomachines and programmable environments.

I'm glad you also think that 'prevention of attacs' is an insufficient justification for the invasion of our privacy. Why you think it would be beneficial to extend this invasion is beyond me.

I don't need any new utopia to know what's wrong with this assumption. By the way I seriously doubt that Mr. Zuckerberg will be able to correctly predict anything. The fascination for these new kinds of social networking has so far eluded me.

[Nastinate]

This shit happens in the middle east and africa every day. We all look like a buncha of asshole's when all of a sudden we give a fuck because it happens to us.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Nastinate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This shit happens in the middle east and africa every day. We all look like a buncha of asshole's when all of a sudden we give a fuck because it happens to us.

We're assholes because we care about things that affect us more than things that don't? Biology is an asshole then, because every single organism has evolved to be more concerned about its survival than the survival of some other organism on the other side of the world.

[Nastinate]

Yeah dude what you just said makes you an asshole

[Smedy]

the modern world just need to ban all practice of religion at this point, especially islam, it's the most evil out of the main ones but ban all of it, any radical beliefs based on some story made up by some guy 3000 years ago is dumb as fuck

check this With Open Gates Video, it's a little bit fear mongering but a lot of it in there is true.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Nastinate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This shit happens in the middle east and africa every day. We all look like a buncha of asshole's when all of a sudden we give a fuck because it happens to us.

You work hard to build a wonderful, beautiful house on a hill, with a verdant garden and well kept lawn, with ornate decorations and plenty of rooms. Due to your hard work, your bathrooms are cleaner than your neighbors kitchens. There is trust in your family, everyone generally follows the rules, and each family member usually cares for one another.

Your neighbor is constantly fighting with his friends and family; violent bloody brawls that spill over into neighboring houses and trash their property. He isn't lazy or stupid, but instead of channeling his energy into building a prosperous life and improving his property, he tries to take shortcuts. Their kids rarely care about staying in school and the girls aren't even allowed to go. There is a lack of trust in his household, and the social bonds between family members are tenuous at best as they barricade their rooms, brutalize each other, and disrespect the rules of their own house.

Eventually they look up at your house and decide they are going to leave their homes in search of a better life at your house. Once there, one of them brutally murders your daughter.

Of course we care more when it happens to us. When you see some idiot parent with two spoiled rotten hyperactive kids who destroy everything they encounter, do you go to their household and start parenting for them? What about when you're forced to adopt one of those kids and they terrorize your family? Can you honestly tell me you care more for foreign strangers than your family?

The fact that you expect everyone else to care just as much for foreign people, whose problems we aren't even capable of solving for them, as your own countrymen, just demonstrates the extent to which you're willing to ignore history, sociology, and simple basic reason. Western society didn't happen on accident, it's the result of a legacy of hard work, good values, trust, compassion, and plenty of mistakes. It doesn't make us assholes to build a beautiful life and then be angry when some slob comes and shits on it.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by commercial grade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was a really dumb analogy.

Why?

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

5 Star post. The P99 forum is unworthy of such insight, but I am sure you already knew that.

If you are anything like me, then exercising your own mind comes first, the post itself is secondary.

You know it's funny that you guys talk about propaganda a 1984 and all this shit about how our governments going to use all of its computers powers to convince us all to do shit that they want us to do.

All while posting a threat that is 100% bullshit propaganda to get you to hate an enemy that our country has invested everything in killing.

Big J is like one of those people that smart enough and has either completely given up and is now trying to make the world burn, or he's just some weird troll like I said I can't fucking figure this guy out.