Game Mechanics: Should not be able to complete epics before 45

[Nirgon]

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My recollection of the wizard epic was for each part of it, you had to have exactly the faction from the previous quest steps. Trying to repeat old steps or immediately turn in the staves would leave you empty handed after turn in.

At the end of the quest, you were reset back to default starting value.

AKA no redoing parts of the quest again for the items.

[khanable]

http://web.archive.org/web/200111220...&pg=1&sortby=4

Regarding the Ragebringer Quest: You can begin collecting soe of the items early on but none of the NPCs will talk to you and no reward for turning anything in will be given until you are Level 50 (minimum).

http://web.archive.org/web/200111220...&pg=1&sortby=3

OOps sorry got my Ragebringer a while ago...

It's pretty sweet.. max backstab at 52 is 453 Damage... that was with resist gear on and not my STR gear

OK You cannot do your epic before lvl 50.
Renux takes about 2 groups of 6 player to do and general about 3-4 to make sure everything goes well... I had to do the sidequest for the quill since that darn General did not drop it.

Anything else I could say?
Oh yeah, Good Luck

May Tunare bless you

Redfalcon Lerouge
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Tallon Zek

http://www.thesafehouse.org/forums/s...d.php?p=394740

RAGEBRINGER QUEST WALKTHROUGH

(MUST be level 50 to talk to all major quest NPCs and have them respond with the quest info and to be able to be rewarded with turn-ins, even the side quests)

[diplo]

Originally Posted by Sundawg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a level 15 monk on EQmac with monk epic. I am sure I could of done it at level one. Not sure about the other epics.

This. There was a thread somewhere that has proof that was resolved under petitions that got it fixed.

[nilbog]

Still willing to change any of these to required level, more faction, etc based on research.

Ragebringer.. does everyone agree you shouldn't be able to trade with Stanos until 50?


Research and the nerfs will come.

[Nirgon]

I'm completely on board with the Stanos change and wizard epic was at least 45. A 44 could not talk to Camin in Erudin or do anything further.

I'm sure parts of the shaman epic are doable at a lower level, as well as Soul Fire. But the major parts are at least 45 in every instance I knew on live.

Each step of the epic required a certain faction. I could not talk to Camin in Erudin after finishing my epic, as the negative hit to True Spirit makes you enable to do the quest again.

Melvyn, a bard on RZ, destroyed his epic and it *had* to be restored by a GM otherwise he could never get one again.

(Yes, I know 46 is planar entrance but 45 was common place for the epics)

[Ele]

Dug deep on EQclerics, couldn't find anyone completing the epic before 49, which doesn't mean it wasn't possible. People were able to work their way through the quest at 45/46 with turn ins. Did not see any posts discussing rejection or eaten items based on levels.

[Ele]

January 2001 Safehouse walkthrough
http://www.thesafehouse.org/forums/s...ead.php?t=2867

RAGEBRINGER QUEST WALKTHROUGH

(MUST be level 50 to talk to all major quest NPCs and have them respond with the quest info and to be able to be rewarded with turn-ins, even the side quests)

December 2001 walkthrough linked on the Safehouse
http://web.archive.org/web/200112130...r.html#rundown

Other Notes

Most NPCs in the quest will not speak to you if you are level 49 or below. You may still acquire some of the components for the quest, but wait on handing them in until you are level 50 or higher.

Interesting quote from alternative walkthrough

General V`ghera, up until spring of 2001, used to *ALWAYS* drop a Cazic Quill, which meant that you didn't have to collect the robes, either! Now, he only drops it rarely (about 1 in 10 is the commonly-tossed around figure), so if you're lucky you won't need to collect the robes, but most people do.

2004 thread
http://www.thesafehouse.org/forums/s...ead.php?t=6777

Does anyone know if we can get our epic pre 50?? I'm pretty sure the answer is no. So far I've gotten everything I need, but I dont wanna try for anything just in case I loose it all....

You have to be 50 to do the hand in.

Some of the NPCs wont respond to you before 50.

you can pick the 2 pages before 50. i got them at 47. both in less than 10 mins. all else you need to be 50.

[getsome]

http://tancidtherogue.com/ragebringer.html

Getting Ragebringer Before Level 50

Generally speaking, the epic quests were designed to be done by characters who were level 50+; in almost all cases, you have to be level 46 or higher to do the quest at all, since for some quests, there are NODROP pieces that come from the Planes (and you have to be 46+ to even zone into the Planes). Some of the epics' NPCs will deal with you if you are below 50, but many will not -- according to William Jackson, Stanos Herkanor will scoff at you if you give him the torn parchment pieces before level 50. (I've had multiple people send in that bit of info.) Whether this is true of all the rogue epic mobs, I don't know, but it seems to be true of Stanos, and since you hand in the final three items to Stanos, he probably won't reward you with Ragebringer if you aren't level 50. But then, maybe he will... who's willing to try? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

4.General V`ghera, up until spring of 2001, used to *ALWAYS* drop a Cazic Quill, which meant that you didn't have to collect the robes, either! Now, he only drops it rarely (about 1 in 10 is the commonly-tossed around figure), so if you're lucky you won't need to collect the robes, but most people do.

[Myth]

I remember Jeb not speaking to my enchanter until I was 50. If you handed in the seal it was the same line of speech. Something along the lines of killing more fire beetles.

[Legend]

just make epics mq, easy solution put a level requirment (easier to code) on all epic weapons.

Lvl 6 monk in east common with his epic... pretty lame imho