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Old 03-25-2015, 04:56 PM
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Default Shaman race debate

I know this might be hidden in the forums somewhere, and trust me I tried to find a thread dedicated to it, but failed. So here goes:

What race is the best choice for shammy? Obviously good and evil both have implications to difficulty level in travel, banking, etc. But based on stats alone, which will give me the biggest leg up.

Secondary question ive got: I only have about 500p cash right now. Is it worth spending a week or so farming some plat with my 42 enc, or are shamans not gear dependent at all? If so, where are some good spots I could farm with my ench? I was thinking halfling guards would be relatively easy. Any tips there?

Thanks and sorry if this is reposty

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Old 03-25-2015, 04:57 PM
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Probably Iksar because of their natural regen abilities. As a shaman you will canni often. As an iksar you will naturally regain HP faster.
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Old 03-25-2015, 05:17 PM
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For shaman, Ogre is the undisputed best class. There are many factors to consider, but it ultimately comes down to the fact that Ogres are Ogres. Unlike other races which are nowhere near as Ogre-like as Ogres, with most of them actually being not even remotely Ogre-like, Ogres have the unique ability to be Ogres. Ask yourself, do you really want to be going up against PD or AoW (when velious comes out) while simultaneously not being an Ogre?
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Old 03-25-2015, 06:22 PM
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For shaman, Ogre is the undisputed best class. There are many factors to consider, but it ultimately comes down to the fact that Ogres are Ogres. Unlike other races which are nowhere near as Ogre-like as Ogres, with most of them actually being not even remotely Ogre-like, Ogres have the unique ability to be Ogres. Ask yourself, do you really want to be going up against PD or AoW (when velious comes out) while simultaneously not being an Ogre?
Ogre or not to Ogre, that is the question.
Whether tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of being called "fatty" all the time
Or to roll a human to avoid those troubles
And by avoiding, end them. To not be an Ogre, to be...
To be what? Not Ogre?
Fuck that.
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Old 03-25-2015, 05:18 PM
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there are more questions to ask than simply "what race"

do you want to solo? do you want to pvp? do you want to be able to travel freely and take druid ports without fear of getting attacked at certain rings? do you have cash to afford fungi? torpor?

ogres have frontal stun immunity
trolls and iksar have regen
iksars lack bash

all are KoS to most other races (iksar more so)

barbs have bash, aren't KoS everywhere, but lack the perks of the other races

so get your priorities straight and you'll be able to answer your own question. then pick the race that looks the coolest.
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Old 03-25-2015, 05:19 PM
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People can make decent arguments for troll and ogre. Play whatever race you like and get good at it. Brief summary of talking points for each race:

Ogre: stun immunity, no regen, can use plate, dat sta/str so gud
Troll: regen, can use plate, good sta/str
Iksar: regen, no plate, meh sta/str
Barb: no regen, can use plate, ok sta/str

edit: as mentioned above, big guys get bash too
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Old 03-25-2015, 05:25 PM
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People can make decent arguments for troll and ogre. Play whatever race you like and get good at it. Brief summary of talking points for each race:

Ogre: stun immunity, no regen, can use plate, dat sta/str so gud
Troll: regen, can use plate, good sta/str
Iksar: regen, no plate, meh sta/str
Barb: no regen, can use plate, ok sta/str

edit: as mentioned above, big guys get bash too
slightly misleading, shaman class gets chain, not plate, but some unclassified armor is only useable by plate races (chitin, jaundiced, etc) because it LOOKS like plate.

shamans don't get plate, but iksar can't wear everything the other guys can
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Old 03-25-2015, 05:49 PM
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slightly misleading, shaman class gets chain, not plate, but some unclassified armor is only useable by plate races (chitin, jaundiced, etc) because it LOOKS like plate.

shamans don't get plate, but iksar can't wear everything the other guys can
When I say "plate" I basically mean the following armor sets:

Jaundice (kunark)
Rune Etched (hate)
Totemic (old world)
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Old 03-25-2015, 06:14 PM
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When I say "plate" I basically mean the following armor sets:

Jaundice (kunark)
Rune Etched (hate)
Totemic (old world)
Don't underestimate these sets either. While nothing here is BIS, you might be wearing Rune Etched or Totemic for a long time. The Jaundice clickies (especially JBB) are powerful time/mana savers till 60.

Much love for ikky but pre-60 and at 60 other races are better.
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Old 03-25-2015, 05:21 PM
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Some light reading:
http://wiki.project1999.com/Shaman
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=134483
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=172855
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=168526
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=165980
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=118245
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=147407
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=146409
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=142345
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=134615
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=140802
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=140500

People are going to say Iksar or Troll or Ogre. Barb is easily left behind simply on Racial abilities, but have the least amount of exp penalty.

You need to take into account the racial exp penalties that affect Iksar/Troll/Ogre.

Troll probably most well rounded. Slam/Regen

Ogre if you want to eek out the tiniest sliver of performance upgrade for frontal stun immunity.

Iksar can't use JBB , if you are inclined to want that item.



If you aren't dropping a fungi+Epic on this shaman and plan to go through the ropes and level normally, try Iksar or Troll.

You also need to consider that most of it becomes a wash once you get level 60 and the spell Torpor which will break your bank.
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