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Yes, it promotes "competition" 75 29.18%
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:15 PM
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Is there a way to code it so when the FTE hits a /who is done at the same time.
Just as a way to prevent FTE sniping from taking place.

If Guild A has 40 in zone and going for Trak, Guild B's ranger fires an arrow just as Guild A is about to engage. Guild B gets FTE, but they have no one in zone cept the sad lil ranger. Guild A kills gets loot because they killed the mob, but the FTE log will show they didn't have FTE even though the other guild didn't have a kill force.
Them's the breaks with FTE.
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:17 PM
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Either this, or respawn mobs drop less loot (and idea Rogean brought up) Thus giving the casual player a better chance to see/kill a dragon, while simultaneously not flooding the market with more Orb of Tishan's and Heirophant's Crooks.
The point of killing a dragon is risk vs. reward. If there is no reward, then there's no point in killing the dragon. I understand, you're worried that you won't be able to charge 300k for a SK epic or ask 60k for scales. There might be competition.
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:24 PM
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Is there a way to code it so when the FTE hits a /who is done at the same time.
Just as a way to prevent FTE sniping from taking place.

If Guild A has 40 in zone and going for Trak, Guild B's ranger fires an arrow just as Guild A is about to engage. Guild B gets FTE, but they have no one in zone cept the sad lil ranger. Guild A kills gets loot because they killed the mob, but the FTE log will show they didn't have FTE even though the other guild didn't have a kill force.
Then we get back to 15 man minimum and rule lawyering. And what about people who just kill shit with friends? Or guilds that raid together? etc. etc. Personally, I'm gonna keep a toon camped out at trak ledge and farm trak BPs from TMO.
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:24 PM
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Is there a way to code it so when the FTE hits a /who is done at the same time.
Just as a way to prevent FTE sniping from taking place.

If Guild A has 40 in zone and going for Trak, Guild B's ranger fires an arrow just as Guild A is about to engage. Guild B gets FTE, but they have no one in zone cept the sad lil ranger. Guild A kills gets loot because they killed the mob, but the FTE log will show they didn't have FTE even though the other guild didn't have a kill force.
Guild A should stop attacking when they see Xanhiooes being shouted by the dragon.
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:26 PM
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Wat

What content requires 40?
For most people, none. But I've witnessed TMO wipe to Gorenaire with that number. I've heard plenty of stories of similar numbers on other Kunark dragons.
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:32 PM
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You did it loraen!
All casual guilds owe me 100k, please deposit with my EC mule promptly, thank you and good day. :P
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:33 PM
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Is there a way to code it so when the FTE hits a /who is done at the same time.
Just as a way to prevent FTE sniping from taking place.

If Guild A has 40 in zone and going for Trak, Guild B's ranger fires an arrow just as Guild A is about to engage. Guild B gets FTE, but they have no one in zone cept the sad lil ranger. Guild A kills gets loot because they killed the mob, but the FTE log will show they didn't have FTE even though the other guild didn't have a kill force.
If Guild B can't kill the mob with their current force, and they get FTE, camp or watch them die. Then kill the mob.

The previous problem with FTE is that nobody knew (for certain) who was FTE until after the mob was dead, and the dust settled. That will be eliminated, it seems.
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:33 PM
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For most people, none. But I've witnessed TMO wipe to Gorenaire with that number. I've heard plenty of stories of similar numbers on other Kunark dragons.
Best of luck with your endeavors Orruar!
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:34 PM
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:42 PM
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For most people, none. But I've witnessed TMO wipe to Gorenaire with that number. I've heard plenty of stories of similar numbers on other Kunark dragons.
Whatever you say; you don't seem like anybody who could be persuaded to think any other way. TMO wouldn't be the first guild to fuck up a pull or encounter and wipe with excessive numbers, but don't forget about all of the sub-30 or even 25 man Trak, Gore, and hell, any other mob kills that you didn't witness.

GL doing your 12 man encounters with tokens!!!
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