Raid Changes

[karsten]

oh did you just pull the lack of girlfriend card?

ouchhhhhh

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by karsten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

oh, also, I'm glad that we can finally have a nuanced, civil talk about this important issue, and I'm certain that real change will be the fruit of our labor

Sound reasoning from Karsten? My vote of guild leadership to that guy.

Also more from other guilds and people? throw in your 2 cents, and may the GMs make the fittest decision.

Mythoxxus

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you guys decided the rules didn't apply to you.

There were no rules except "don't KS" which applied to that situation.

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bring back regular spawns with set camping rules (IE: Must have 20 Present at the encounter to claim it. You then move out to a pull spot when your about 30 minutes from the pop, buff and get ready, it pops, it dies)

You can say "bring back" as many times as you want, blowhard. No amount of repetition will change the fact that no such rules existed. What you are proposing here is an ENTIRELY NEW SYSTEM. I don't have any problem with that, but call a duck a duck and stop trying to change history.

Originally Posted by Taluvill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What Myth said is 100% true.

Yes, Tallivul, we know that you think you can wish things true.

Here is one you might find more useful to your immediate situation:

Transcendence is NOT a dead guild wildly heaving in its dying throes, and they really WILL get a raid mob some day.

Say it enough times, and it just might come true.

[Taluvill]

Originally Posted by Zithax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You realize that's what we wanted in the first place?

Get at me son

Originally Posted by Maximus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

then lets getcha what you wanted then, as we did not oppose to this either, your guilds attitude and unwillingness to comply with anything started the whole forced rotation. Lets get back to classical raid rules, which is what the people wanted.
Mythoxxus

This

Edit: Bed. I'll talk to you all tomorrow, I would also love to hear an opinion from someone not in IB or Trans, or a GM(Preferably this one when all valid points have been argued)

[Dukat]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Say it enough times, and it just might come true.

Nah, you've been saying dumb stuff for months now and all of it is still false.

[karsten]

k myth and i'm glad you liked my comments but what i actually meant was the opposite, not sure if you noticed that but it's what I did

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Dukat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah, you've been saying dumb shit for months now and all of it is still false.

It only works when Tallivul does it.

[Taluvill]

Sorry, this one was a bit too much to just go to bed over heh.

Transcendence is NOT a dead guild wildly heaving in its dying throes, and they really WILL get a raid mob some day.

No, we are not a dead guild. VERY Far from it. Ask our members if we're dead. Any one of us can tell you just how we're doing.

You can say "bring back" as many times as you want, blowhard. No amount of repetition will change the fact that no such rules existed. What you are proposing here is an ENTIRELY NEW SYSTEM. I don't have any problem with that, but call a duck a duck and stop trying to change history.

The idea is that spawn variance isn't classic, and I personally feel that im asking for the old ways back with a few amendments to appease people who disliked parts of the quote on quote "ruleset" (you say there wasnt one except for KSing).

We're just looking for something that is fair and balanced for all. While some think this is, and in a perfect world, this is a great system. Problem is, with 3rd party hacks, this isn't a perfect world. In a perfect world, every country would have some form of communism too. Great on paper, bad in practice.

[Taluvill]

Originally Posted by karsten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

k myth and i'm glad you liked my comments but what i actually meant was the opposite, not sure if you noticed that but it's what I did

Idk if you can tell, but we hit your sarcasm with more sarcasm

[karsten]

not sure if you noticed, but i actually hit your sarcasm with more of my own sarcasm, basically it's like a triple dose of pimpin from ol karsten