Raid Changes

[SamwiseBanned]

the only way to get ahead on these kinds of serves is to step on everyone who gets in your way.

[Quizy]

Originally Posted by Tarathiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

all that means to me is that GM's wont be enforcing a rotation, which is not what were asking for... if people could just stop acting like spoiled little children for 5 minutes im sure an agreement could be worked out that would require ZERO gm interference

Start showing us some damn respect then if you want some back.. geeze... we didnt even fraps and petition your draco kite because we were supposed to be showing you guys some fairness with mobs..

see how far that got us ? lol

[inyane]

It's got to be pretty hard from the TMO point of view, to keep logging in at all hours to kill the same crap over and over, specially when they don't even need most of the gear. I mean, if i got the batphone at 3am, woke up and logged in, just to watch the loot rot, or someones 3rd alt get it? meh

Which is probably where the mystery thread on their forums that they keep mentioning came from. How to get some positive press while giving up stuff they don't care about.

But, now with the suspension, they have their hate to keep them going for awhile longer. We must be punished and put in our place.

I fully expect them to lose many hours in the coming weeks keeping every single thing locked down, because you all have forgotten who really runs this server!

Frankly, I hope velious never comes, or is delayed for a really long time, because I would love to see how long TMO can keep this up.

[Stealin Dragons]

Originally Posted by inyane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's got to be pretty hard from the TMO point of view, to keep logging in at all hours to kill the same crap over and over, specially when they don't even need most of the gear. I mean, if i got the batphone at 3am, woke up and logged in, just to watch the loot rot, or someones 3rd alt get it? meh

Which is probably where the mystery thread on their forums that they keep mentioning came from. How to get some positive press while giving up stuff they don't care about.

But, now with the suspension, they have their hate to keep them going for awhile longer. We must be punished and put in our place.

I fully expect them to lose many hours in the coming weeks keeping every single thing locked down, because you all have forgotten who really runs this server!

Frankly, I hope velious never comes, or is delayed for a really long time, because I would love to see how long TMO can keep this up.

hmm, long hard fight to get where they are now? I am sure they could keep it up for quite awhile.

Think IB held top spot for about 1.5years, unquestionably. I think TMO could do the same.

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[HarrisonHarrisonHarrison]

Ban guilds that poopsock from the guild leader down, one by one, until they stop.

Problem solved forever. No guild will risk this.

The problem is the GMs rule with a fluffy fist and just let the guilds run amok, breaking rules, exploiting, nonstop, and they're so rarely punished for it that it is worth the risk.

If the risks were greater than the rewards, they wouldn't be doing it. This is why you have guilds like TMO doing what they do.

[Xanthias]

Originally Posted by HarrisonHarrisonHarrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ban guilds that poopsock from the guild leader down, one by one, until they stop.

Problem solved forever. No guild will risk this.

The problem is the GMs rule with a fluffy fist and just let the guilds run amok, breaking rules, exploiting, nonstop, and they're so rarely punished for it that it is worth the risk.

If the risks were greater than the rewards, they wouldn't be doing it. This is why you have guilds like TMO doing what they do.

sigh I actually have to quote you instead of just quick ignore... just to prove a point.

Has TMO done stuff, that is shady and I wish we hadn't? Yep.
Has IB done stuff that is shady? Yep.
Has Divinity done stuff that is shady? Yep.
Has Bregan Die done stuff that is shady? Yep.
Has noobguild 1492 done stuff that is shady? Yep.

Do you get the point?

There is NO SUCH THING as a 100% spotless and clean guild.
They are made up of individuals, each who brings something and whose actions can affect the perception of that guild.

Harrison, we ALL know you hate TMO, but seriously get some new material.


Now then on to what has been discussed. On MT there were rotations in Kunark for everyone, when Velious came out (Getsome, Trystych correct me if I'm wrong here been a while) TW, HF, & RA went there for raids on FTE basis, while a calendar system was used for planes and kunark (trak/vs only) content.

The main issue is: Content, I'd guess easily 50% of the server is 57+, most of us are bored, and boredom leads to people sniping more at each other.

[Pillow Armadillo]

Originally Posted by inyane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But, now with the suspension, they have their hate to keep them going for awhile longer. We must be punished and put in our place.

I fully expect them to lose many hours in the coming weeks keeping every single thing locked down, because you all have forgotten who really runs this server!

Frankly, I hope velious never comes, or is delayed for a really long time, because I would love to see how long TMO can keep this up.

There are a lot of valid points being made in this thread. This is one, in particular, that I felt needed some reinforcement.

Remember when Rogean delayed Veeshan's Peak from releasing last September because TR/TMO had created such a hostile endgame environment that he felt the players didn't deserve it? http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=48145

It'd be unfortunate if this happened with an entire expansion...

That being said, I think a productive discussion of what-if's and sharing of ideas is a good step forward. Topics like these are useful, and can improve communication between players and staff on p99 - whether you agree with the ideas in the OP or not, the baiting comments about dragon handouts and "wellfare raiding" is the kind of inflammatory rhetoric that prevents these threads from growing and providing quality feedback.

[SamwiseBanned]

no idea what this thread is about but hail and well met.

[Adayven]

Just want to start by saying I'm not a member of any raiding guild so I have no dog in this fight at all, but it's something I'm thinking about in the future and I think this affects most of us on the server as open hostility isn't good for anyone.

Why does anyone have to suffer in this at all? The point we're at now in server progression why not just glut the server with raid mobs repop raid zones daily. Who cares if someone's 15th alt ec mule is epic'd? As someone previously stated 90% of gear will be replaced with velious anyway. Not many casual players from live are ever gonna come to p99. We've all had some end game raiding experience. Make it all a non issue. Let guilds work out when they'll kill what mobs, but do so knowing they'll never have wait more than at most a week for said mob.

I don't know how much work a server restart is for the gm staff, but for the player base it seems like a no-brainer unless your only goal is to flex your epeen.

[Silentone]

Originally Posted by Adayven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just want to start by saying I'm not a member of any raiding guild so I have no dog in this fight at all, but it's something I'm thinking about in the future and I think this affects most of us on the server as open hostility isn't good for anyone.

Why does anyone have to suffer in this at all? The point we're at now in server progression why not just glut the server with raid mobs repop raid zones daily. Who cares if someone's 15th alt ec mule is epic'd? As someone previously stated 90% of gear will be replaced with velious anyway. Not many casual players from live are ever gonna come to p99. We've all had some end game raiding experience. Make it all a non issue. Let guilds work out when they'll kill what mobs, but do so knowing they'll never have wait more than at most a week for said mob.

I don't know how much work a server restart is for the gm staff, but for the player base it seems like a no-brainer unless your only goal is to flex your epeen.

that will keep the people crying happy for about 1 month, till everyone has what they want. Then the server will just die.