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Yes, it promotes "competition" 75 29.18%
No, its an unneccesary non-classic time sink 182 70.82%
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Old 10-12-2012, 03:11 PM
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Bring it.
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Old 10-12-2012, 03:14 PM
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Well if they have DLLs in place they can get some hashcode for your computer directly. Anyway I was just thinking that if I was Zeelot with 100 people each with 2-3 L60 chars, I'd have them camp out 50% trakanon 25% VS and maybe 25% Sev or so. Log on, kill boss, and the mobilize everyone for VP.

One other thing: please, please, please enforce training rules in VP. The whole point of the simultaneous repop is to spread guilds out. With current training rules BDA refuses to go there, so TMO can just save VP for last. If TMO can't train in VP, BDA will go there first (I'm guessing) and TMO will get at most VS and Trak before heading to VP for Phara Dar. That leaves everything else up for a solid hour or so.
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Old 10-12-2012, 03:14 PM
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great news, i hope this will help to keep blue players staying on the server. thanks again for your great effort!
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Old 10-12-2012, 03:16 PM
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With all due respect, stupid fucking idea
TMO, you have the right to state your displeasure with the removal of the artificial system that has been such a boon for your guild.

You do NOT have the right to call a long-needed and soul-wrangled compromise "a stupid fucking idea" without looking like a total douchebag.

The developers deserve a ton of credit for taking swifter and more effective action than anyone has had a right to expect.
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Old 10-12-2012, 03:16 PM
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I think Loraen also has an excellent point. The zone itself should repop. Hell, the whole world should repop.

One of the best things about a complete reset was that ALL timers instantly became known. When the server went down you KNEW Hadden would be up, you KNEW Stormfeather and Lodizal would be walking around. This wrestled the timer away from the previous person who had been timing and controlling the spawn.

Total repops have a freshening effect and I think it should be pursued.

EDIT: regarding VP, if the zone itself does not repop any see invis wurms will be cleared before hand. A Phara`Dar raid could be called and executed within 20 minutes from start to zoning out of VP. While this certainly is a time advantage for other guilds, it's not quite as large as one might think. Especially if there is no training in VP.
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Old 10-12-2012, 03:20 PM
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Total repops have a freshening effect and I think it should be pursued.
I could support exploring this mechanic, except that it's somewhat unnecessary compared with Velious content programming. There has never really been a major issue with normal camps with the clear and decisive camp ownership rules we have now. Quite unlike the furor and constant problems with raiding.
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Old 10-12-2012, 03:20 PM
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With all due respect, stupid fucking idea
Which part do you disagree with and what is your alternative proposal?
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Old 10-12-2012, 03:22 PM
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Rogean, if you could consider and looking into guilds not kiting trains through or near other guilds camps.

Running mobs by while other guilds are fighting or healing or buffing can cause havoc, i think its a simple fair rule to consider.
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Old 10-12-2012, 03:22 PM
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Poopsocking is meaningless under FTE, and was a direct result of variance. That was the consensus of the prior 30-page thread, and the other ten to fifteen 30-page threads before that one.
I stand corrected. I actually mistated what I was thinking.

But FTE sniping is just as gay. We've seen this in PoSky since nobles are on a fixed spawn. Enough variance to discourage guilds from sitting at spawn points is probably warranted. Variance itself isn't classic, but the gameplay that comes from it is more classic.
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Old 10-12-2012, 03:23 PM
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TMO, you have the right to state your displeasure with the removal of the artificial system that has been such a boon for your guild.

You do NOT have the right to call a long-needed and soul-wrangled compromise "a stupid fucking idea" without looking like a total douchebag.

The developers deserve a ton of credit for taking swifter and more effective action than anyone has had a right to expect.
Korrath is not a spokesperson for TMO, nor are the other members who post here. A lot of you need to learn the difference between leadership/members opinions. Most of what you see on the p1999 forums has nothing to do with the leadership.
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