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"all EQ guards seem to be immune to the charm series" July 2001
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Dolalin has peaked my interest! After some quick research it seems in contemporary EQ all city guard types are immune to charm (tested with a high level enchanter shroud and a low level dark elf enchanter on live. Visited Neriak, Oggok and Qeynos - from low level sewer sentries to superbuffed level 50 gate guards). Guards that don't wear a uniform nor are on a guard faction (e.g. some of the village / wilderness guards in Rathe and East Karana which are just humans in plate) can be charmed. On the whole it looks like city type guards (including those in travel zones) are uncharmable, and were uncharmable since 2000 with a few other zam posts backing this up. I'll reply with quotes and links from zam later. Other classic boards need to be searched too. | ||||
Last edited by Jimjam; 11-23-2021 at 07:25 AM..
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Killing guards is not only evil it would invoke the wrath of death touching city leaders
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They should just make NPCs unkillable.
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I don't think that fits with the open world nature of the game. this server should be as classic as possible. My preferences for guards to obliterate people trying to pharm them because they're usually inappropriately easy to to manage unlike a real mob in a real dungeon doesn't mean anything i this context.
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It's spelled "piqued"
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no one cares
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I seem to have found a possible timeline for guards being made immune to charm. Here's a post about Nektulos guards specifically being made immune to charm in July/August 1999 from the EQ-Enchanters mailing list.
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Here's another one from eq-bards in October 1999 that talks about Nek guards being immune to charm (and their resists being boosted in general):
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Also I recall filing a bug a long time ago that most greens should run at 50%, there's a bit more evidence for that too. Will keep looking to see if I can find references to other city guards being charm immune. | |||
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Evidence
Own Experience of (contemporary unrevamed zones on) Live:
lvl 50 gate guards: uncharmable (qeynos, oggok, neriak) sub 50 city guards: uncharmable (qeynos, oggok, neriak - this includes the exhausted guards and sewer sentinels in the qeynos aqueducts) neriak cleric guild guards: uncharmable neriak 3rd gate city guards: uncharmable (these seem to all be SKs!) Posts from Zam Jul 16 2003 High Keep https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...05836347552487 Hi i have a lvl 30 enchanter and i decided to charm solo guards. Unforunately i found out that guards cannot be charmed (fortunatley i had rune up and tried to charm the guards near the zone). I was wondering if i could charm anything else in the zone for killing or i should use my uncontrollable pet? Also can guards be mezzed i see no reason why the shouldnt but just wondering. Jun 21 2003 Qeynos Hills Guard Fefslan https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...05620519267079 Guard Fefslan "Immune to charm." note: (this guard appears to have been added/adjusted post classic to be part of the newbie armour/weapons quests). Dec 07 2002 North Karana Guard Shilster https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...05620519267079 So I handed in about 340 times and got from dub to amiably. Then he started to walk away, as I was not finished I try to charm but stupid guards cant be charmed so not sure where he was heading too... Mar 13 2000 Sir Lucan D`Lere's guards EFP https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...1&p=5#comments One poster asks whether Lucan's guards can be charmed/mezed/etc and a subsequent poster advises (in era) to entrance them. Jun 28 2021 Sir Lucan D`Lere's guards EFP (appears to have been a progression server - classic version of zone) https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/...49015411287417 A more contemporary poster advises in 2021 Lucan's guards are uncharmable and reiterates the advice to mez and burn. Legacy of Ykeshka onward Neriak C Gribnor's guards (these are body guards - not a city guard) https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=12809 Gribnor's 'guards' (Ykesha era - in Neriak) are charmable (but these are body guards and not city guards). Apr 21 2000 Guard Carnita (Mountains of Rathe - not a city guard) https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=3050 Get a shaman and an enchanter with best cha possible sow both shaman heals enc charms... This dumb guard hits for 90ish and bashes for 32 charm him sic him on drakes and have fun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] has low hp though so have shaman heal it while its enc pet. if shaman is level 19 malise it so charm sticks better and if charm breaks run like the wind, root, and recharm this is a power levelers dream... Summary: City Guards appear to have been uncharmable since at least 2000. This includes low level guards, but it does not include all village/wilderness NPC's with 'guard' in their name that also don't use guard model/skins/factions (as found in East Karana, Lake Rathe, Mountains of Rathe, etc). | ||
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