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Old 12-22-2020, 10:04 AM
Chiseanne Chiseanne is offline
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Hi,

I thought we still have a play nice policy on here but today a guy named Rohk stole my orc 1 camp in east commonlands telling me "I was not at the camp" while I was just sitting a bit up the hill to avoid the roamers.

He didnt even do a camp check and since his char was too high I couldnt even get a single one and finally gave up.

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Usually people here are very nice but this sucks.

Can any GM explain the policy to that guy please? would be great, thx.
Keep up the good work!
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Old 12-22-2020, 10:14 AM
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That was for Blue server. cant delete this message.
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Old 12-29-2020, 08:04 PM
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Old 12-22-2020, 10:29 AM
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He might have a point if you were sitting too far away from the camp. Dealing with roamers might just have to be part of that camp. I feel ya though, even if the guy had a case technically, he could also have just chosen to not be a jerk and leave you alone.

That's the real test of who is and isn't a dickhead in EQ; when they *could* rule lawyer you out of a camp, but choose not to.
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Old 12-22-2020, 11:24 AM
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He might have a point if you were sitting too far away from the camp.
That's not how it works. If you keep a camp clear, it doesn't matter where you're sitting: it's your camp. You could be halfway across the zone, but as long as you make it back before the spawn (or technically even a "reasonable amount of time" after) that camp is "owned" by you.

However ... in an outdoor zone you can't claim "camps"; you can only claim "spawn points". Technically you did "own" one single spawn point ... but there was nothing in the rules preventing the other player from showing up and taking other spawns (common courtesy would, but that's not a rule).

https://wiki.project1999.com/Camp_Rules#General_Rules

P.S. Regardless of all of the above, we have an all volunteer support team here, so there will be times when there technically are no rules because there's no one to enforce them. All you can do in that case is use a program like OBS to record the bad behavior, and submit the video via forum petition.
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Old 12-22-2020, 01:02 PM
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That's not how it works. If you keep a camp clear, it doesn't matter where you're sitting: it's your camp. You could be halfway across the zone, but as long as you make it back before the spawn (or technically even a "reasonable amount of time" after) that camp is "owned" by you.
This is not true. You need to be nearby a camp to claim it, as per: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=2651

I wouldn't use the wiki as a source of server rules.
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Old 12-22-2020, 01:24 PM
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This is not true. You need to be nearby a camp to claim it, as per: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=2651

I wouldn't use the wiki as a source of server rules.
I think you might be misinterpreting either what happened or the rule. It clearly states that you don't need to be near the camp as long as you are keeping it clear until it is contested. From the OP, it sounds like it wasn't being contested until the high level already decided the OP wasn't there.

As for the wiki... I'm pretty sure that page is just a collation of the various GM rulings that have come down and is billed as a "this is what you should expect if there is a dispute, but these aren't the rules as written".
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Old 12-22-2020, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rewinder47 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
This is not true. You need to be nearby a camp to claim it, as per: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=2651

I wouldn't use the wiki as a source of server rules.
you do not have to be near the camp. you are allowed to go sell and vendor. you cant leave the zone and have to keep the camp clear. also like previously mentioned in EC the person could of still claimed a single spawn not just take the entire camp. he would also have to give the OP the choice of which spawn he chose to keep.
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Old 12-22-2020, 04:32 PM
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This is not true. You need to be nearby a camp to claim it, as per: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=2651

I wouldn't use the wiki as a source of server rules.
This is false.
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Old 12-22-2020, 01:28 PM
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Yucky! Sorry about the yucky experience. Really gross and yucky.
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