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Old 06-27-2014, 03:58 AM
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Default Klandicar attack/fear

Did some playing with Klandicar tonight. Small sample size, but figured I'd mention it so others can chime in. I think his attack may be a bit too high, every single hit except 2 was for max on our wars.

Also, similar to what is being reported for Sontalak, we encountered major fear resist problems. 400+MR for fear resists = very low chance of being resisted. I think we had 1 or 2 resists out of 15-25 hits on people in our bard group. Non bard groups have pretty much no chance to resist.
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Old 06-27-2014, 10:55 AM
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Our raid felt the same way about resists on many dragon aoes. Especially sont and kland's fear, and also some aoes in ntov. We don't have classic logs to compare them to, but the general consensus among people who did raid Velious on live was that most aoes were actually quite easy to resist. And they are very difficult to resist right now. Take that for what it's worth.
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Old 06-27-2014, 12:52 PM
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Looks good then:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlzAutiwi_A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YBEqvc01ZE

Guilds in Velious/gear taking fears 8)

Look @ 1:50 in 2nd vid


Fun fact that root/regen potions should make fear not work on you
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Old 06-27-2014, 11:58 PM
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Looks good then:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlzAutiwi_A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YBEqvc01ZE

Guilds in Velious/gear taking fears 8)

Look @ 1:50 in 2nd vid


Fun fact that root/regen potions should make fear not work on you
Interesting videos. I think it actually helps show that fear resists are off.

In the first video, there aren't actually a ton feared, you can quite clearly see pretty much all the warriors and clerics resist it everytime - they assumidly have bards. The people running probably are bard-free. The person taking the video did not have a bard.

The second video has more fears, but there are still clearly 2-3 groups that don't get feared really. Most guilds in velious ran with 2-3 bards, so it also seems logical that these are bard groups, and that bard groups don't really have fear land that often. Velious, in terms of AE's, is often mentioned at how necessary bards were - this is why.

I think this actually helps prove that these fear resists are not classic. We have lvl 60's with 400+MR who are pretty much all fleeing with only a stray resist. That is quite clearly not what was happening on either of those Kland runs.

Ie, I think your videos make a good argument about how this fear landing so much is not classic.
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Old 06-28-2014, 12:06 PM
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Interesting videos. I think it actually helps show that fear resists are off.

In the first video, there aren't actually a ton feared, you can quite clearly see pretty much all the warriors and clerics resist it everytime - they assumidly have bards. The people running probably are bard-free. The person taking the video did not have a bard.

The second video has more fears, but there are still clearly 2-3 groups that don't get feared really. Most guilds in velious ran with 2-3 bards, so it also seems logical that these are bard groups, and that bard groups don't really have fear land that often. Velious, in terms of AE's, is often mentioned at how necessary bards were - this is why.

I think this actually helps prove that these fear resists are not classic. We have lvl 60's with 400+MR who are pretty much all fleeing with only a stray resist. That is quite clearly not what was happening on either of those Kland runs.

Ie, I think your videos make a good argument about how thserious?? landing so much is not classic.
Lol? Is this serious?? We watching the same video?
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Old 07-12-2014, 07:16 AM
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Interesting videos. I think it actually helps show that fear resists are off.

In the first video, there aren't actually a ton feared, you can quite clearly see pretty much all the warriors and clerics resist it everytime - they assumidly have bards. The people running probably are bard-free. The person taking the video did not have a bard.

The second video has more fears, but there are still clearly 2-3 groups that don't get feared really. Most guilds in velious ran with 2-3 bards, so it also seems logical that these are bard groups, and that bard groups don't really have fear land that often. Velious, in terms of AE's, is often mentioned at how necessary bards were - this is why.

I think this actually helps prove that these fear resists are not classic. We have lvl 60's with 400+MR who are pretty much all fleeing with only a stray resist. That is quite clearly not what was happening on either of those Kland runs.

Ie, I think your videos make a good argument about how this fear landing so much is not classic.
Good points, and this doesn't even take into account that players back then were complete newbs. I played on a pvp server where resist gear was much more important and dragon fears were less of an issue. The average player on a blue server ran around in +str/hp/wis/int gear 24/7, hence the fears. I can tell you they didn't have bags of jac/diamond rings, bd earrings, wolfs bracers and tranni/frog crowns etc like our guild kept on us mandatory.
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I can tell you they didn't have bags of jac/diamond rings, bd earrings, wolfs bracers and tranni/frog crowns etc like our guild kept on us mandatory.
By Velious most blue servers knew to keep and use resist gear. It was mandatory in my guild at least. Lets be honest ;P

Full set of resist gear and "always on" stable internet were our #1 requirements. The first 2 videos are both known hardcore raid guilds. They had resist gear on.
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Looks good then:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlzAutiwi_A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YBEqvc01ZE

Guilds in Velious/gear taking fears 8)

Look @ 1:50 in 2nd vid


Fun fact that root/regen potions should make fear not work on you
I like how the mana depletes slowly, instead of instantly.
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Old 06-27-2014, 12:59 PM
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Velious geared guild killing Gorenaire for comparison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUJL...2UqlblfQGRh2ZQ

Lots go running in Velious gear when fear goes off

(They wtfpwn her with a burst at the end)
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Old 06-27-2014, 11:46 PM
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Velious geared guild killing Gorenaire for comparison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUJL...2UqlblfQGRh2ZQ

Lots go running in Velious gear when fear goes off

(They wtfpwn her with a burst at the end)
We know nothing about their levels, buffs, resist gear, or bards in group.

I think it's worth mentioning that the person who is taking the video, has a bard, and doesn't get feared once.

Ie, I'm not sure this proves much, the people running could be 50ish, not have good resist gear, and not have bards (and yes, you would get a fair amount feared in that scenario on Gor).
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