NPC Spawn Issue: Vorshar the Despised

[Genkaii]

Vorshar the Despised was an original content mob that was located in neriak and was there for gm tokens to be turned in at. He is not on p99 or p99 red but should be.

[Daldaen]

This creature does not exist on P99 and should.

He was added as part of a temporary quest in October 2001, but remained on the server for quite a few years after this. For example he was on Al'Kabor before it came down.

He should drop 2 loots every kill, flee, be high resistance, and be Snare immune. I've heard rumors on Al'Kabor he was a 2 hour respawn but haven't seen any evidence of this.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6611

First post under the mob is October 2001:

Hes not 32-35, coned him today (im a 37 shaman) and he coned red, FYI.

On difficulty:

vorash is yellow to me and i'm 60. he doesnt enrage or flurry. he can be done witha 60 war and a 60 cleric now adays because of Alt exp points.... he is no slouch but hardly worth killing...

Noraseas - Unity
Prexus server

On 2-drops per kill:

Dropped Azibelle's Scarf of the Night along with Al Kabor's Impenetrable Mask for me tonight, attacked him not expecting him to be hit, but he hit back, killed him not expecting loot, but lo and behold, decent twink gear that is easy to get.

He dropped Dabner's Belt of Insight and Al`Kabor's Ring of True Sight tonight.

Edit: Oh, and no faction hit for killing him. Also, he moves quite quickly. After he started fleeing at 20%, his walk speed was as fast as normal running. This made it very difficult to keep up with him in the narrow paths of Neriak.

He dropped Ognit's Aqua Collar and Dabner's Traveling Cloak tonight.

Alright, a bit more information. I've killed him four times now, and he appears to be on a three day spawn timer. He has dropped two items, one Dabner's and one of something else all four times. In addition to Ognit's Cape of Salesmanship, which is already listed here, he has dropped Dabner's Stud of Introspection, Dabner's Amulet of Elements, and Zavo's Stud of Mortality.

I can see either doing the 3-day verified spawn timer from Live or just saying it's some of the final new content P99 will see so throw a 2-hour unverified AK timer just so people can experience it without poopsocking. No clue what's classic on the respawn end.

[MiRo2]

There is one for each city I think. I specifically remember talking to the one in Cabilis after they showed up when I played on Live.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6399
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6656
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6705
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6849

There's more, but I'm on my phone right now and copy/paste is quite a chore. I know it was eventually found out that it a was GM reward quest, but I had never heard of them being killed or dropping anything, but I had also never heard of killing Bro Z/Q before either until way after they were implemented too. The one you listed is the only one that has comments regarding them dropping items that I looked at.

[Rygar]

The comments from the drops off this mob appear to be out of era significantly (2007 and later).

I don't doubt he was added in, but it seems the other comments and clicking on the items themselves seem to suggest the rewards were from some sort of Firionia Vie GM event in Burning Woods or Skyfire or something I read from one of the links. Others seemed to suggest the mob was a quest NPC that you handed coins to from GM events to receive rewards.

Saw nothing in era of him dropping those loots. Of course it could be possible no one successfully killed him as he seemed to be very beastly, but I don't think he should be added in with those items.

Would be cool if those city NPCs are added and just reward some items from coins acquired during GM events or perhaps rare random ground spawns in world (one post mentioned someone picked up a coin from the ground to give this guy).

Coins could make it easier for GMs to distribute items to people during GM events or make them a rare ground spawns elsewhere in world.

[pasi]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s....php?p=2234316

Can mention he was a 2 hour spawn at least in 2002. Killed him multiple times a day for probably a year.

Hit for 200s or such. Non-social, spawns in the bar, but will run at 20% through the tunnel if you engage in the bar. Pretty MR, but touch of innoruuk (-500 mr) landed 100% of the time and touch of volatis (-200 mr) was hit or miss. Duoable at 60 in SoL, soloable in PoP.

[markcosmin]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The comments from the drops off this mob appear to be out of era significantly (2007 and later).

I don't doubt he was added in, but it seems the other comments and clicking on the items themselves seem to suggest the rewards were from some sort of Firionia Vie GM event in Burning Woods or Skyfire or something I read from one of the links. Others seemed to suggest the mob was a quest NPC that you handed coins to from GM events to receive rewards.

Saw nothing in era of him dropping those loots. Of course it could be possible no one successfully killed him as he seemed to be very beastly, but I don't think he should be added in with those items.

Would be cool if those city NPCs are added and just reward some items from coins acquired during GM events or perhaps rare random ground spawns in world (one post mentioned someone picked up a coin from the ground to give this guy).

Coins could make it easier for GMs to distribute items to people during GM events or make them a rare ground spawns elsewhere in world.

The items and quest were intended, I doubt there is any video of the fan faire on youtube but story goes something like this guy made himself a personal vendor that produced plat, and basically 'stole' from other developers - their revenge was to hand out tokens you gave in (which gave you one item on his drop table for your class) from GM events (this was there attempt about 2 years before legends server for 'custom content') - hes 72 hour spawn (this i almost remember 100%) and he always dropped at least 2 items, he was a 3 group mob in velious era (pre luclin) I remember because warriors still wanted cobalt legs.

[Rygar]

What do you mean someone made a personal vendor that produced plat to steal from developers? I'm not following. Are you saying some developer got disgruntled, and made some other vendor that stole plat from the server / player (like would eat your plat and not give you an item?), and to make up for that this guy was put in so you can redeem tokens for items?

If so that is more of an argument not to put him in.

Maybe you are saying the stealing plat from developers was a Lore angle to a storyline for putting him in, but OMG the cringe involved with that is horrible.

Please explain further, I'm just not picking up what you are putting down.

[Daldaen]

One of the mobs on the dock near him is on a similar faction. You can dazzle it next to Vorshar to prevent the flee.

He dropped these items on Al'Kabor which had a 2002 code break cut off. I find it hard to believe they saw fit to add the mob in 2001, then not put items on him until 2002 unless there is some evidence suggesting this delay.

These items are not overpowering at all.

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One of the mobs on the dock near him is on a similar faction. You can dazzle it next to Vorshar to prevent the flee.

He dropped these items on Al'Kabor which had a 2002 code break cut off. I find it hard to believe they saw fit to add the mob in 2001, then not put items on him until 2002 unless there is some evidence suggesting this delay.

These items are not overpowering at all.

I still think the burden of proof lies on proving the drops existed on that mob in era, even a single post for one of the items could lead to credibility for the rest. Seems odd the item links all mention being drops or give aways from GM events at the start, then later in era mentions about drops on this guy.

Admittedly i know nothing of Al'Kabor, but is everything on that server exactly how it was on live? Or are there documented discrepancies for certain things?

Even if the code was the same, couldn't some of the database be altered, such as drop tables from mobs?

[Caiu]

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=55976

Effect: Gate (Any Slot/Can Equip, Casting Time: 20.0) at Level 5