Disappointed Cleric

[Minluan]

My partner and I joined the P99 community in November 2010, myself leveling 2 characters over 50 and my partner 3 characters. My main is a level 60 Cleric - Elixa of Europa, and my wife plays a Level 60 Mage - Natcha of Europa.

Today (1st March 2013) I logged into EQ and was happy to see that my long time friend and guildy Slozem was planning to check for ragefire in Solb. To my surprise he was up and we proceeded to move to Solb, meeting some Divinty members along the way who were happy to help me attempt the final part of my epic. We planned to share any other loot between our 2 guilds <Europa> and <Divinity>.

We were un-contested and cleared all the fire giants to the lair, we killed the Magi Rokyl and had 2 remaining giants in camp. I got a couple of tells quite quickly saying that I needed to hand in the pearl asap as TMO were coming to try and leap frog us. To that I ran to the human form of ragefire with my pearl in hand, tried to click on him to open the trade window, but was already beaten by Hakata and his faster handing in of the pearl. Ragefire started attacking me, I backed away and Hakata pulled him to the stealthfully formed TMO camp.

We watched for some time as ragefire was trioed by Zagum, Hakata and a TMO cleric (I forget her name). No doubt this heart which has been obtained today will be added to the collection of hearts being sold in this thread: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=96614

Anyway, I find that currently this "community" of players that I am now gaming with leaving a bitter taste in my mouth when I logged off today. I have not been able to obtain my epic for a year now, I have not payed or given anything in return for each of my epic stages apart from my desire to help others complete quests or goals within this game. I am sure you can probably understand my disappointment when I am denied at the very last point of my epic quest to 3 people attempting to amass a horde of platinum.

I understand the rules of this server, and that these are needed to keep a large grey area opening up in guild disputes at the end game. Unfortunately I also remember a time when clearing nearly every fire giant with 3 groups of players and with a cleric hoping for the last mob in their epic quest would be a quite plain statement of intentions, any other group or guild respecting the mobilisation of those people who had logged in specifically to help.

What could be done about this? I am really not sure. But I thought you should know that on this great project and achievement in gaming that some cleaver people have created, moderate and administrate – populated by people who share the same love for this project there are players that treat others in this manner.

I think that if this type of community continues as it is, then we will be producing an environment that is not conducive to maintaining and growing new and good hearted players.

Thank you for taking the time to read this post.

Elixa <Europa>

[feanan]

Sorry to hear about your epic. That sucks.

You appear to have been on the server long enough to know there is a certain toxic percentage of the population playing
who don't give two shits about anyone but themselves.

That said, there are also many very wonderful and helpful people here also. Sadly, most of those type of people stop playing
when they get close to 60 and figure out there is nothing to do at the high level, unless you want to deal with all the bullshit.

Wouldn't see so many duo/trio killings of stuff if they'd go ahead and nerf donals bp now.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by feanan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry to hear about your epic. That sucks.

You appear to have been on the server long enough to know there is a certain toxic percentage of the population playing
who don't give two shits about anyone but themselves.

That said, there are also many very wonderful and helpful people here also. Sadly, most of those type of people stop playing
when they get close to 60 and figure out there is nothing to do at the high level, unless you want to deal with all the bullshit.

Wouldn't see so many duo/trio killings of stuff if they'd go ahead and nerf donals bp now.

Yes what happened to the OP sucks, but other than that your post is awfully lol-worthy.



Hey OP - did you try talking to the TMO trio at all?

[Lanuven]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes what happened to the OP sucks, but other than that your post is awfully lol-worthy.



Hey OP - did you try talking to the TMO trio at all?

There is no talking to them. If they are there with pearl first they see it as competition and they don't know what "Play Nice" means. God forbid they let Europa get a ragefire kill for an epic. Or even give him the heart out of good will. But that would take away plat from their banks, so no way in hell would that happen.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Lanuven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no talking to them. If they are there with pearl first they see it as competition and they don't know what "Play Nice" means. God forbid they let Europa get a ragefire kill for an epic. Or even give him the heart out of good will. But that would take away plat from their banks, so no way in hell would that happen.

PNP or not, it's not realistic to expect people to go out of their way to be selfless every time someone else needs/wants something. There's two sides to every story, we're only hearing one side of things here, everyone loves to pile on and point fingers at the evil machine on the forums, etc etc.

No one is yelling at you that there are poor noobs getting killed in crushbone right now but you're trying to sell your druid instead of going to cb and spending all of your free time helping them. Why are you yelling at Zagum and co for doing what amounts to the same thing (i.e. doing what they want to do instead of trying (and failing) to do what everyone else wants them to do)?

[Lanuven]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PNP or not, it's not realistic to expect people to go out of their way to be selfless every time someone else needs/wants something. There's two sides to every story, we're only hearing one side of things here, everyone loves to pile on and point fingers at the evil machine on the forums, etc etc.

No one is yelling at you that there are poor noobs getting killed in crushbone right now but you're too busy trying to sell your druid to go spend all of your free time helping them. Why are you yelling at Zagum and co for doing what amounts to the same thing (i.e. doing what you want to do instead of trying (and failing) to do what everyone else wants you to do)?

Besides the point, thats about the only thing I ever did on my druid. Was go to zones like Mistmoore and CB and buff groups while Afk. Thats not the point though.
What I'm trying to point out is that leapfrogging and general douchebaggery is allowed here. Ragefire spawned this morning at around 7am and was uncontested. Divinity being in lair did not have enough people to take it alone, so we offered our assistance to Europa by helping clear giants and what'not.

Theres really no other side of the story, other than, "We (tmo) was here first and we dont care that your are clearing giants, as long as we turn in first its ours. The big deal here is they are doing it for MQ sales, and Europa was doing it for a player who didnt have epic. Spin all you want, the assholes already made their selves apparent in the 100 other times they have done this.

[fullmetalcoxman]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one is yelling at you that there are poor noobs getting killed in crushbone right now but you're trying to sell your druid instead of going to cb and spending all of your free time helping them. Why are you yelling at Zagum and co for doing what amounts to the same thing (i.e. doing what they want to do instead of trying (and failing) to do what everyone else wants them to do)?

Wow, I've seen some terrible analogies, but that is pretty cringe worthy.

If Lan was running around CB leap frogging noob groups for Emp Crush I might be able to see it, but the scenario you've presented makes zero sense at all.

[Khaleesi]

Originally Posted by Lanuven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no talking to them. If they are there with pearl first they see it as competition and they don't know what "Play Nice" means. God forbid they let Europa get a ragefire kill for an epic. Or even give him the heart out of good will. But that would take away plat from their banks, so no way in hell would that happen.

Does TMO legitimately need epics/epic items or similar equipment? There may be a few exceptions for alts - though given the amount of alts they own and particularly why they own them - the answer is a resounding no.


Does FE legitimately need epics, in some cases yes. Is it for the purpose of enjoying the items and playing their characters to their fullest? Often no; the ultimate end goal will be to knock off the top guild and then commit the same grievances that their predecessors did.

Most of us (maybe sans Jeremy who must have a terrible computer if in the late 2000s decided his game of choice was a DirectX 6 product from 1999), have been here before. And the high end game is probably one of the worst aspects of EverQuest in it's original form.

We should be using our accumulated knowledge, information, data, skills, experience and general maturity (most of us grew up), to help ourselves and others enjoy something we all want to relive.

Instead, we have situations like this and many others.

Nilbog could do us the favor of opening a cloned version of P99 and sending all the top guilds to it - one way trip. Then the fight over ego and pixels would be reduced and let us get back to playing EverQuest and not EverEgo.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Khaleesi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most of us (maybe sans Jeremy who must have a terrible computer if in the late 2000s decided his game of choice was a DirectX 6 product from 1999), have been here before. And the high end game is probably one of the worst aspects of EverQuest in it's original form.

Glorious, <3 ya jeremy

[bizzum]

Originally Posted by feanan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wouldn't see so many duo/trio killings of stuff if they'd go ahead and nerf donals bp now.

Donal's is completely irrelevant to this. Duo'd it with a manastone and torpor. Just makes the fight go faster!