To the guilds clearing Freeti cycle...

[mrmop520]

It would be nice to leave island 2 popped at least once..

This marks the 3rd week in a row where we're unable to get keys to 3.. (yes we normally skip to 4 but keyed clerics vanished today) and our sky raid is unable to do anything. I understand Freeti cycle is independent of guild scheduling, and FC would be there contesting if it wasnt 4:30PM ESt on a work day :/ Guess it just sucks to have the one day where we don't have to step on toes (and receive the wraith of multiple guild alliances :P) to raid sky ruined.

Its great the guilds have all agreed to treat sky as a scheduled raid zone, it just seems there isn't much respect to leaving essential islands popped when the Freeti cycle occurs. And yeah 2 isn't too essential.. obviously we're shooting for 5/6 and beyond, but 3 weeks of no island 2 and our keys are severely lacking 2->3.

Guess all im saying is.. wheres the next server repop so another guild gets their sky day shat upon :P

[Vadd]

Maybe another guild wouldn't mind lettin u guys get their extra keys?

Who knows!

[mrmop520]

Originally Posted by Vadd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe another guild wouldn't mind lettin u guys get their extra keys?

Who knows!

Well if they would just stop killing island 2 haha. It serves no purpose outside of a Sirran spawn in the efreeti cycle (1.5, 4, 8)

[arsenalpow]

they pull to 2, so the azaracks have to go away to make that easier

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by mrmop520 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well if they would just stop killing island 2 haha. It serves no purpose outside of a Sirran spawn in the efreeti cycle (1.5, 4, 8)

that's easily done, sounds like they disregarded it.

Originally Posted by Boilon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you honestly think anyone on this server would play cooperatively Ramblin? You should know better then that :P

sigh asteroid, yes people do play cooperatively.....

Originally Posted by Chloroform [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in our defense its hard to leave island 2 up considering its in a central location of the zone. Also at that particular raid i was unaware of your set schedule as the raid leader, i consider that my fault and mine alone(not TMO as a whole) My suggestion is key corpse's and keeping on top of them. Also PST to anyone in TMO a bit of communication goes a long way. again its my fault for not knowing about the set sky raids in the Raid discussion thread.

now I agree its hard to have cross - guild communication but a few tells go a long way. Seems this time tells didn't work?

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO did not kill the first horse in SKY. We ported up cleared 1 and 2,corpsed to 4 and killed the first horse before anyone else was in zone.

Therefor you had sky.... now...

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We killed the trigger. End of story. Sorry I overreacted.

youre under reacting.

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also just to bring this back to a calm response. Let me paint a picture of what happened. TMO members zoned into SKY. TMO obviously did a /w all.. guilds generally do on arrival. TMO sees us there... And by your own admission....Pulls a soul carrier ? They don't send the other guild a tell.... They don't ask "Hey are you guys on 4 clearing ?". I mean you used an eye to pull 4 from 1 you would have seen us there. Yet now TMO is saying "It was just miscommunication guys".

Who is responsible for communication at that point ? Not us we were already at 4 clearing. Half of TMOs guild however knows Tuesday is the day we do SKY. I mean we worked to get keys from 2 back last week with some of you. Yet TMOs response to this (Knowing Tuesday was the day we do sky) was to immediately pull 4 when entering Sky ? I mean everyone has posted in the Sky day raid thread. We all know who has what day. Well for the most part we know. You guys posting here knew. Yet somehow the miscommunication is our fault right ? We are just crying to be crying. It was just a simple misunderstanding that could have been solved with communication had FC simply sent TMO a tell..... Yet that was TMOs responsibility to send a tell since they zoned into a zone with an ongoing raid. Not the other way around. So please brush up on your communication skills TMO =).

Now after this a few folks respond in defense....

Originally Posted by AenarieFenninRo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So it all seems like it got worked out up there, and in tells with officers / leaders etc, and now you come here and complain? This isn't R&F!

well they tried in tells, took it to server chat very calmly without name calling and the asshatery that is in RnF...

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO enjoys griefing, let's see some of the pub chat directed at their current primary opponent FE

[Tue May 21 16:53:11 2013] Eccezan shouts, 'FACT: Every guild that Lilyanna has ever been in has died.'
[Tue May 21 16:53:23 2013] Sworen shouts, 'FACT: thats funny.'
[Tue May 21 16:53:48 2013] Quickfingers shouts, 'You could say that for every officer in FE acutally...'
[Tue May 21 16:53:57 2013] Quickfingers shouts, 'Former BDA/VD/IB burn outs'
[Tue May 21 16:54:21 2013] Zenorek shouts, 'VD ever counted as guild?'
[Tue May 21 16:54:35 2013] Quickfingers shouts, 'When you have to join/make FOUR guilds to fight TMO with'
[Tue May 21 16:54:46 2013] Quickfingers shouts, 'you know you should quit and go play on sleeper'

and then some conversation with Full Circle
[Tue May 21 17:03:13 2013] Wispy says out of character, 'thanks for takin our gorgalusk guys [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]'
[Tue May 21 17:03:24 2013] Xarzzardorn says out of character, 'hes on isle 2 if u want him'
[Tue May 21 17:03:34 2013] Wispy says out of character, 'alive still?'
[Tue May 21 17:03:40 2013] Quickfingers says out of character, 'Define..Alive'
[Tue May 21 17:05:19 2013] Wispy says out of character, 'talking about loot. had an agreement with aalpha to not kill the non-freeti cycle mobs b/c it fucks up the rotation'
[Tue May 21 17:05:37 2013] Sworen says out of character, 'think thats true until you attempt ooa and wipe :P'
[Tue May 21 17:05:38 2013] Quickfingers says out of character, 'True but you guys attempted out OOA'

[Note from Chest: Full Circle had like 12 people in Sky, obviously not a force capable of beating Overseer. I think Dreamreaper aggroed him accidentally or something, i'm unsure of the circumstances of him getting DTed]

you bring RnF in game so... telling FC this isn't rnf doesn't hold weight...

now, this is something EASILY avoided.... FE doesn't even hit sky when we want... due to all the "scheaduled" times. But if we port up see others there we just talk to who ever is up there and clear all air, blatantly disrespecting a mid tier guilds sky raid when you've farmed it 10000000 times isn't the way to go.

What can be done to avoid this in the future... is what should be discussed, think we all know how "its" been handled in the past...

[Clark]

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[Boilon]

you honestly think anyone on this server would play cooperatively Ramblin? You should know better then that :P

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Boilon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you honestly think anyone on this server would play cooperatively Ramblin? You should know better then that :P

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[mrmop520]

Originally Posted by Boilon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you honestly think anyone on this server would play cooperatively Ramblin? You should know better then that :P

Haha well...

Honestly the responses i've received from this thread have pointed towards guilds wanting to cooperate and not step on others too much even when competing for the weekly freeti cycle... IMO its been nice having set schedules for Sky, although once that 8th guild wants in who knows what happens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Boilon]

Originally Posted by mrmop520 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha well...

Honestly the responses i've received from this thread have pointed towards guilds wanting to cooperate and not step on others too much even when competing for the weekly freeti cycle... IMO its been nice having set schedules for Sky, although once that 8th guild wants in who knows what happens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I wish more people were like this then. The reason Europa stopped doing Sky was due to constant disappointment on our long held day because of a guild that I shall not say who decided to go up before us 3 weeks in a row. Was getting a bit tiresome. But hey, maybe things are changed now and I hope that they are for the other guilds [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]