Property is theft.

[Hasbinbad]

Still you are yet to put together a cogent argument against this point.

There are several valid criticisms of this idea, of which my favorite is "fuck you, I am a greedy bastard and I like the idea of owning private property," but no-one has put one forth.

First, we have to understand that the phrase refers to land and excess resources, rather than possessions and use-rights. Understood in this, the proper fashion, one can see that theft does not in fact presuppose property in the sense that I am using property, and is clearly a valid proposition.

[Hastley]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still you are yet to put together a cogent argument against this point.

There are several valid criticisms of this idea, of which my favorite is "fuck you, I am a greedy bastard and I like the idea of owning private property," but no-one has put one forth.

First, we have to understand that the phrase refers to land and excess resources, rather than possessions and use-rights. Understood in this, the proper fashion, one can see that theft does not in fact presuppose property in the sense that I am using property, and is clearly a valid proposition.

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[runlvlzero]

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[Clark]

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Lol

[runlvlzero]

So your telling me an agreement between two or more people to respect possession is theft?

[Hasbinbad]

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So your telling me an agreement between two or more people to respect possession is theft?

what about people who are not in on this agreement?

[Recycled Children]

So how do you build anything if no one owns land? Who has the right to build there?

[r00t]

we stole it from the injuns fair & square

[Hasbinbad]

To be clear: the type of property i am referring to as theft is "private property." This is mostly distinguished as exclusionary "owned land" and exclusionary "excess resources," as opposed to "posessions" and "personal property," which can be seen as "things you need or have some use-right to" and "use-rights to land" and "things which are produced from the land you're using, within reason."

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To be clear: the type of property i am referring to as theft is "private property." This is mostly distinguished as exclusionary "owned land" and exclusionary "excess resources," as opposed to "posessions" and "personal property," which can be seen as "things you need or have some use-right to" and "use-rights to land" and "things which are produced from the land you're using, within reason."

only skimmed a few posts..

There is no land ownership in maine, you may have a house there, you may own a deed and pay taxes on the land, you don't own the land.

The only reason I bring this up is because theres a hot topic in maine right now for the construction of a private east west highway which will tear through the state clearing houses and businesses out of the process. My great aunt and uncle have lived in their house that they built by hand for over 40 years. never missed a payment or anything have a deed etc etc The highway is going right through their front door and theres nothing they can do about it.

The state has had a vote and the people turned it down but apparently it doesn't matter the company can still go ahead and construct its highway, if you don't want to sell to them to bad they're going straight to the bank and buying your land out from under you and kicking you on the street.

So though my family has lived on this land for over 100 years, built 2 houses, etc etc etc... we don't own anything other than what we put here. if someone wanted the property they could just go to the bank and pay more than we can and take it from us.

Can't wait for day 1 construction im going to be standing in front of bulldozers with a rifle/shotgun/road flares on my chest screaming i have a bomb. its my state god dammit, go fuck yourselves and your highway.