Sirken, the server can't come to an agreement

[Hawala]

I'm not sure what you're expecting Sirken, but what kind of agreement do you want? There are lots of us who would rather see nobody get any kind of raid mobs at all than come to an agreement.

Are you asking for consensus? Because it just won't happen.

[phacemeltar]

i think thats the point.

[phacemeltar]

its like in kindergarden when your teacher would say everyone can go outside as soon as no one is talking..

[Hawala]

Originally Posted by phacemeltar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its like in kindergarden when your teacher would say everyone can go outside as soon as no one is talking..

Or like saying you can play with your 10 toys as long as you can devise a way to share them with 1000 kids in your kindergarten class.

[Elmarnieh]

It's about as just and reasonable as the level of intelligence in dealing with human-centric problems I expect from kindergarten teachers (who require no job specific training).

[SwordNboard]

Since there are more raid-capable guilds and level 60s due to the extended Kunark timeline, they just need to increase raid spawns to multiple times per week. Say there are 9 raid guilds. Have raid targets spawn 3-4 times per week, but you cannot kill the same target more than once per week. That leaves competition in, and rotations out. Any newer guild breaking in to the raid scene could be investigated as being an alt guild. With this many mobs to guilds, you could still have guilds that come out dry from competing and losing targets.

[drakelord]

Originally Posted by SwordNboard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since there are more raid-capable guilds and level 60s due to the extended Kunark timeline, they just need to increase raid spawns to multiple times per week. Say there are 9 raid guilds. Have raid targets spawn 3-4 times per week, but you cannot kill the same target more than once per week. That leaves competition in, and rotations out. Any newer guild breaking in to the raid scene could be investigated as being an alt guild. With this many mobs to guilds, you could still have guilds that come out dry from competing and losing targets.

Who's going to do those investigations? Admins are already busy enough as it is.

[Elmarnieh]

Originally Posted by SwordNboard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since there are more raid-capable guilds and level 60s due to the extended Kunark timeline, they just need to increase raid spawns to multiple times per week. Say there are 9 raid guilds. Have raid targets spawn 3-4 times per week, but you cannot kill the same target more than once per week. That leaves competition in, and rotations out. Any newer guild breaking in to the raid scene could be investigated as being an alt guild. With this many mobs to guilds, you could still have guilds that come out dry from competing and losing targets.

This most simple solution to lack of supply and absundance of demand is to increase supply instead the decrease supply with variance which pushes guilds to compete even more. Intentions and hopes of a policy have no bearing on the actual effects of a policy.

Three day mobs to one day mobs, 7 day mobs to three day mobs - remove variance. Issue resolves itself.

This happened on live with the rise of the great raiding guilds in Kunark and Verants solution was to increase the supply of raid target (hello Velious design). Since we should already be in Velious its a no-brainer for me to decrease raid mob spawn rates. For some reasons the GM's see this as not-classic in a way totally different than the way years of no velious and variance are not-classic.

[snwbrdr642]

Originally Posted by Elmarnieh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This most simple solution to lack of supply and absundance of demand is to increase supply instead the decrease supply with variance which pushes guilds to compete even more. Intentions and hopes of a policy have no bearing on the actual effects of a policy.

Three day mobs to one day mobs, 7 day mobs to three day mobs - remove variance. Issue resolves itself.

This happened on live with the rise of the great raiding guilds in Kunark and Verants solution was to increase the supply of raid target (hello Velious design). Since we should already be in Velious its a no-brainer for me to decrease raid mob spawn rates. For some reasons the GM's see this as not-classic in a way totally different than the way years of no velious and variance are not-classic.

this makes a lot of sense to me. yeah increasing spawn rates isn't classic, but neither is 3 years of kunark, variance, suspending raiding and the fact that it is over 10 years later and online culture has changed dramatically.

the goal of recreating a classic experience is a noble one, but we need to realize that we are indeed recreating and copying exactly is never going to be a real possibility. it is incorrect and irresponsible of GMs and staff to point fingers at bad behavior and claim that 100% of the fault lies in the actions of those behaving badly. it is also unreasonable for the players to have exceedingly high expectations for a team of staff and GMs that are volunteers and are doing the best they can with the resources available.

[Unidus]

Originally Posted by Elmarnieh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This most simple solution to lack of supply and absundance of demand is to increase supply instead the decrease supply with variance which pushes guilds to compete even more. Intentions and hopes of a policy have no bearing on the actual effects of a policy.

Three day mobs to one day mobs, 7 day mobs to three day mobs - remove variance. Issue resolves itself.

This happened on live with the rise of the great raiding guilds in Kunark and Verants solution was to increase the supply of raid target (hello Velious design). Since we should already be in Velious its a no-brainer for me to decrease raid mob spawn rates. For some reasons the GM's see this as not-classic in a way totally different than the way years of no velious and variance are not-classic.

Finally someone with a brain. Now if only the devs would wake up and understand this way works. All that you said with a one day mob every 3 days and a 3 day mob every 7 days limit for guilds to share. This way guilds can't kill 1 day mobs every day and it opens up kills for the smaller guilds to try to get.